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  • Gift
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    #31
    Nice looks like a dexcent disco-party location for minions. There's a gamers running gag: More RGB = more FPS^^

    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

    Nope, The CPU is designed to run at 95 degrees. You can reduce the temp by running ECO or undervolting but I left as is.
    Of course it's fine to max out the specs as it's fine to find some headroom for improvement.

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    • BillyCarpenter
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      #32
      Originally posted by Gift
      Nice looks like a dexcent disco-party location for minions. There's a gamers running gag: More RGB = more FPS^^



      Of course it's fine to max out the specs as it's fine to find some headroom for improvement.
      I know it sounds weird but the CPU isn't maxed out at 95 degrees. That's normal when all cores are being used. It still has headroom. The only way to make it run cooler is to lower the voltage but it can become unstable if you're not very careful.

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      • BillyCarpenter
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        Well, we ran into another problem. When my son would play around with the RGB settings for the fans, pump and RAM, the PC would shut off. My son was convinced that it was a software problem, but I wasn't. I had him to download Cinebench and do a CPU stress test. I immediately saw that the CPU speed was being throttled down thus lowering the amount of power to the CPU, thus lowering the temp. of the CPU.

        In my mind, there were a couple of reasons this was happening.

        1. The AIO pump head wasn't mounted flush on the CPU.
        2. Defective pump.
        3. Thermal paste not applied correctly.

        He confirmed that the pump head was mounted flush.

        Next I had him remove the pump head and send me a piture of the thermal paste on the CPU. It was terrible. Large areas had no thermal paste whatsoever.

        I asked him how he applied the thermal paste. He used the pea-sized blob in the middle method. Here's the problem with that. The old processors were much smaller than the current CPU's and this method results in poor coverage of the CPU because it's much bigger.

        I had him to apply a very large amount of thermal paste and use a spatula to cover the entire surface area of the CPU. We then ran Cinebench again and the clock speeds were what I would expect - around 4.9Mhz and the temps were slightly lower. But remember the purpose of thermal throttling is to lower CPU temps to the normal range.

        Anyway, everything is running as it should. I then had him to turn on ECO mode and that lowered the temp. from 95 degrees to around 65. We had a slight loss in speed/performance but not much. I'd rather have the CPU running cooler and lose a little performance than vice-versa.
        Last edited by BillyCarpenter; 06-11-2024, 02:07 AM.
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        • BillyCarpenter
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          • BillyCarpenter
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            #35
            I've been reflecting back on the things I learned helping my son build is dream gaming PC. For starters, picking the right motherboard, CPU and the rest of the parts was very eye opening. There were probably 35 or more CPU's to choose from. A staggering amount. Without going into great detail, you can spend anywhere from $200 - $700. When gaming, it all comes down to bottlenecking. That can happen at the CPU or GPU. Normally, modern games are more GPU intensive than CPU. Still, the processor you pick is important and you have to account for newer games that have yet to be released. Doing my homework kept me from overspending on a CPU that would have been overkill.

            Ditto for the MOBO. Most of the high end MOBO's have features that I really didn't need and mostly had to do with overclocking. There were some nice features on the high end boards that would have been nice but not with the extra $300. The important thing here is to pick the right MOBO that allows an upgrade path in the future. an AMD 4 socket leaves you with little upgrade path. An AMD 5 socket is the way to go.

            I also learned how to calculate power usage of the components I picked for the build. Fortunately, there are websites that allowed me to easily do this. But I didn't know this until doing my research.

            There's also the matter of picking a GPU. This is the most expensive part of the build. You can spend as little as a few hundred bucks up to around $2500.00.

            Then there are things like your gaming monitor, AIO, ram, NMVE drive, ect.

            I don't even want to say how much money this build cost but it was expensive. I always get carried away this stuff. But past experience has taught me that (for me) it's better to buy a part once and be satisfied than buy a lower end part and eventually decide that I need to order order what I wanted in the first place.

            That's it for now.
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            • BillyCarpenter
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              #36
              I've been trying to decide on what GPU to buy for my son's gaming PC. I've gone back and forth between the RTX 4060 and RTX 4070. In the end, I ended up buying the:



              ASUS - ROG Strix NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER Overclock 16GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card - Black


              This is a beast of a card. It's flagship model for the 4080. There's only one GPU in the world that's better and that's the RTX 4090.

              This is getting very expensive as now I have to buy a 4k monitor. Anyway, check it out.



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                • Hart
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                  • BillyCarpenter
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                    #39
                    We're on phase 2 of my son's gaming PC. We had to replace the Hyte Y60 case with the HYTE Y70. Initially, I was planning on going with the ASUS GeForce 4060 Super GPU but at the last minute ordered the ASUS GeForce 4080 super. The 4080 is a 3 1/2 slot GPU...it's HUGE. As a result, the fans were pressed against the glass and not really cooling as it should. The HYTE Y70 Touch is one of the most expensive cases on the market but what am I gonna do? It had to be done.

                    Today, I also ordered all new Li Lian LCD fans that are amazing. Those crazy bastards really did it. The put a LCD on the fans.

                    There's a couple of other small things that I want to do and this build will finally be done.

                    I'll post pictures when it's finished.
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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      Well, the Lian Li LCD fans were delivered but unlike the old style, these require and 8 pin to 6 pin ATX power cable. He doesn't have an extra so I'll ship him one that I have.

                      Yesterday, I ordered him a badass keyboard unlike anything I've seen.

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                      • Hart
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                        #41
                        Stop throwing your money please

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Hart
                          Stop throwing your money please
                          I'm touched that you're looking out for my wallet. What a nice guy you are. But can you be more specific? What shouldn't I have ordered?
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                          • Hart
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                            #43
                            At this point, a Steam Deck with a dock

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                            • BillyCarpenter
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                              #44
                              New Hyte Keyboard



                               
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                              • BillyCarpenter
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                                #45
                                Finally, the 4k Infinite Touchscreen display is off back order. Just ordered it.

                                Here's what it's gonna look like:



                                 
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