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  • BillyCarpenter
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  • BillyCarpenter
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    Well, we ran into another problem. When my son would play around with the RGB settings for the fans, pump and RAM, the PC would shut off. My son was convinced that it was a software problem, but I wasn't. I had him to download Cinebench and do a CPU stress test. I immediately saw that the CPU speed was being throttled down thus lowering the amount of power to the CPU, thus lowering the temp. of the CPU.

    In my mind, there were a couple of reasons this was happening.

    1. The AIO pump head wasn't mounted flush on the CPU.
    2. Defective pump.
    3. Thermal paste not applied correctly.

    He confirmed that the pump head was mounted flush.

    Next I had him remove the pump head and send me a piture of the thermal paste on the CPU. It was terrible. Large areas had no thermal paste whatsoever.

    I asked him how he applied the thermal paste. He used the pea-sized blob in the middle method. Here's the problem with that. The old processors were much smaller than the current CPU's and this method results in poor coverage of the CPU because it's much bigger.

    I had him to apply a very large amount of thermal paste and use a spatula to cover the entire surface area of the CPU. We then ran Cinebench again and the clock speeds were what I would expect - around 4.9Mhz and the temps were slightly lower. But remember the purpose of thermal throttling is to lower CPU temps to the normal range.

    Anyway, everything is running as it should. I then had him to turn on ECO mode and that lowered the temp. from 95 degrees to around 65. We had a slight loss in speed/performance but not much. I'd rather have the CPU running cooler and lose a little performance than vice-versa.
    Last edited by BillyCarpenter; 06-11-2024, 02:07 AM.

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  • BillyCarpenter
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    Originally posted by Gift
    Nice looks like a dexcent disco-party location for minions. There's a gamers running gag: More RGB = more FPS^^



    Of course it's fine to max out the specs as it's fine to find some headroom for improvement.
    I know it sounds weird but the CPU isn't maxed out at 95 degrees. That's normal when all cores are being used. It still has headroom. The only way to make it run cooler is to lower the voltage but it can become unstable if you're not very careful.

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  • Gift
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    Nice looks like a dexcent disco-party location for minions. There's a gamers running gag: More RGB = more FPS^^

    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

    Nope, The CPU is designed to run at 95 degrees. You can reduce the temp by running ECO or undervolting but I left as is.
    Of course it's fine to max out the specs as it's fine to find some headroom for improvement.

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  • BillyCarpenter
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    Originally posted by Gift


    I think with an AIO it should be possible to maintain temps <80 degrees during casual gaming and higher temps if you run stress benchmarks of course. If the temps spikes out "too easy" perhaps the AIO isn't mounted properly or something is wrong with the thermal grease.
    Nope, The CPU is designed to run at 95 degrees. You can reduce the temp by running ECO or undervolting but I left as is.

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  • Gift
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    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
    Someone may find this useful. I sure did.


    We're using the Ryzen 7 7700x. This CPU is using the Zen 4 architecture. The new generation runs much hotter than the previous version. Under load it is designed to run at the maximum temp. of 95 degrees. I was tripping on this when I saw high high the temp. was. But I noticed that the CPU wasn't being throttled to cool things down and the temp never went up. AMD says the processor runs better at 95 degrees and this is normal.

    Just FYI.

    I think with an AIO it should be possible to maintain temps <80 degrees during casual gaming and higher temps if you run stress benchmarks of course. If the temps spikes out "too easy" perhaps the AIO isn't mounted properly or something is wrong with the thermal grease.

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  • rthonpm
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    It's about $1,500 per admin, but the free version is still pretty good for building out installs even if you need to just build them through batch files.

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  • BillyCarpenter
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    Originally posted by rthonpm
    Ninite has been around for years. I used about ten years ago until I found PDQ Deploy, which allows you to build packages for almost any software and push to remote machines.
    You turned me on to PDQ Deploy a while back but I had forgotten about it. If memory serves, I tried the 14 day free trial. I don't know how much it cost after that?

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  • rthonpm
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    Ninite has been around for years. I used about ten years ago until I found PDQ Deploy, which allows you to build packages for almost any software and push to remote machines.

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  • Hart
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    Ninite in 2024 ?
    When we have winget and soon sudo ?
    The WinGet command line tool enables developers to discover, install, upgrade, remove and configure applications on Windows computers.

    Learn how to use sudo in your command line to run elevated commands (as an administrator) directly from an unelevated console session on Windows.

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  • BillyCarpenter
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    I ran across this website and it allows you to download all of your favorite programs from one place. See link below and video.


    Website: https://ninite.com/






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  • BillyCarpenter
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    Someone may find this useful. I sure did.


    We're using the Ryzen 7 7700x. This CPU is using the Zen 4 architecture. The new generation runs much hotter than the previous version. Under load it is designed to run at the maximum temp. of 95 degrees. I was tripping on this when I saw high high the temp. was. But I noticed that the CPU wasn't being throttled to cool things down and the temp never went up. AMD says the processor runs better at 95 degrees and this is normal.

    Just FYI.

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  • BillyCarpenter
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    I just got off the phone with my son and here's what we did. I had him take everything out of the case. Place MOBO on the box in came in. Had him plug in all the ATX power cables. Wire fan controller and fans. Then I had him to power on and it posted and displayed the BIOS screen. No more DRAM light.

    Not sure what the problem was. He probably had something plugged in wrong. Anyway, very happy that it's working.

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