W10, how to deactivate the Internet but leave the local network operative?

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  • Hansoon
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    W10, how to deactivate the Internet but leave the local network operative?

    Have reasons to deactivate the complete Internet on a W10 computer, but leave the local network operative. How to do it? I do not want the firewall for this, any better? Fixed IP and no DNS or what do you advise please?

    Hans
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  • bikerm1ke
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    #2
    If you put in a static ip and either no Gateway address or a purposely incorrect Gateway address, the computer will then only be able to communicate on the local subnet.

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    • slimslob
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      It needs to be done at the router and needs to be based on the MAC of the computer and need to be an allow list and not a block list. Otherwise you teenager that you don't want on the internet will most likely be able to defeat it. Even then if he/she has a cellphone they can still access using a WiFi hot-spot or USB/Bluetooth tether.

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      • rthonpm
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        #4
        VLAN or an incorrect gateway, or even DNS resolving to a local server with no forwarders.

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        • Hart
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          #5
          From Settings or Control Panel I would do this.
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          • BillyCarpenter
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            #6
            Originally posted by rthonpm
            VLAN or an incorrect gateway, or even DNS resolving to a local server with no forwarders.
            If he sets this one computer up on a VLAN then the PC will be on a different subnet and unable to communicate with any other PC's in the office. Unless he sets up an inter-Vlan connection.

            Like you said, an incorrect gateway will do the trick. Or really, just leave the gateway blank.
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            • BillyCarpenter
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              #7
              Originally posted by slimslob
              It needs to be done at the router and needs to be based on the MAC of the computer and need to be an allow list and not a block list. Otherwise you teenager that you don't want on the internet will most likely be able to defeat it. Even then if he/she has a cellphone they can still access using a WiFi hot-spot or USB/Bluetooth tether.

              This is true. Good point, Simply leaving the gateway blank or an incorrect gateway is easily overcome by almost anyone with basic PC knowledge.


              rthonpm's suggestion of DNS resolving to a local server with no forwarders would be much better than an incorrect gateway but I don't even know if they have a server. Need more information.
              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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              • Hart
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                #8
                Without the full explanation on why, we can't do more.

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                • Hansoon
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hart
                  Without the full explanation on why, we can't do more.
                  On an older MFP without SMB or other good scan alternative, I will put an obsolete notebook beside as a scan-server. This notebook should not being used for anything else than just only collecting scans through FTP. I do not want any wise a$ to start to use it for going into the Internet.

                  Hans
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                  • Hart
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                    #10
                    What's the MFP model ? I'm pretty sure we can do something more elegant than this.
                    What's the budget ?

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hart
                      What's the MFP model ? I'm pretty sure we can do something more elegant than this.
                      What's the budget ?

                      Considering that the copier is old and doesn't support SMB and he's using an obsolete laptop for FTP, I'm gonna guess that the budget is as low as one could possibly imagine.
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                      • BillyCarpenter
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                        Hans, unless they have a server and you can do what rthonpm suggested, then you don't have many options other than leaving the gateway blank and keeping an eye on it.
                        Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                        • Hart
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                          #13
                          You're not creative enough...
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                          Most small office/home office (SOHO) multifunction printers (MFPs) don’t support network scanning. If such a scanner cannot scan to a shared SMB folder or email, you can use the NAPS2…

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                          • Hansoon
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                            I prepared the old laptop as necessary and scanning is working fine. Quick and easy solution and working very good. I left the gateway blank and the laptop is in a locked room nobody can touch. Also is remote access blocked, so I see no great disadvantages. All seems a little clunky, but the customer is very happy that they can continue to use their loved BH-C-360.....

                            And I am happy continuing collecting my fees for the service contract with them, which is very rewarding since I have loads of parts for this very well running machine in stock.
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                            Hans
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                            • RRodgers
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                              #15
                              Set your gateway to something that is not the gateway ip.
                              Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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