Fingerprint Authentication

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Fingerprint Authentication

II tried the KM biometrics for the 4 series and they failed a lot, that's why I only use card readers, but I also work with facial and fingerprint recognition products for presence control in companies and they are hell, from one day to the next they stop recognizing you or confuse users especially with dark-skinned or older people who have very old, sweaty or dirty skin

I always recommend my clients to work with passwords or cards

... when available soon, I will order in an inexpensive fingerprint reader and try it with all of the 10 people in my office to see how well it works for a month before forming an opinion.

[avecosat]

Re: Fingerprint Authentication

II tried the KM biometrics for the 4 series and they failed a lot, that's why I only use card readers, but I also work with facial and fingerprint recognition products for presence control in companies and they are hell, from one day to the next they stop recognizing you or confuse users especially with dark-skinned or older people who have very old, sweaty or dirty skin

I always recommend my clients to work with passwords or cards

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Fingerprint Authentication

I work with facial and fingerprint recognition equipment to control time, presence, temperature, mask.... and they work like hell. The best are cards and passwords.

... I interpret your response to mean that in your experience fingerprint readers do not work well. Can you describe the issues you had with fingerprint readers?

[avecosat]

Re: Fingerprint Authentication

I work with facial and fingerprint recognition equipment to control time, presence, temperature, mask.... and they work like hell. The best are cards and passwords.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Fingerprint Authentication

... They range in price from as little as $45.00 to $75.00 each and are certified by the FBI.

... I think your experience is a little dated. Cards reader can cost in excess of $500.00.

[MattL]

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Fingerprint Authentication

Biometrics is a large industry that requires local service providers like office equipment dealers to service everything from finger print readers to iris readers to self identity kiosks. Many users who own iPhones use biometrics every day with the built in FAceID feature.

COVID caused the market to recently explode as gov'ts struggled to control their borders and businesses vulnerable to theft and security issues wanted to control their premises.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Fingerprint Authentication

To me there are two vantage points.


From the technician standpoint, it's just another thing that can go wrong.

From a sales perspective it's another arrow in our quiver and there can never be enough.

In the big picture this is a very small niche market. If you stumble up on someone that needs one...great. But I wouldn't waste time seeking them out. My time is better spent elsewhere.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Fingerprint Authentication

Seems like an idea that looks great on paper but rarely used or wanted by mainstream companies. Probably lots of service calls just to make a copy.

.. we will soon find out but definitely a lower cost solution than card readers. As there are no moving parts, once a person has registered their finger prints I am not sure what service calls there would be.

[bsm2]

Re: Fingerprint Authentication

SecuGen describes their finger print readers as:

"Auto-On automatic finger detection and Smart Capture for quality scanning of dry, moist, aged, scarred, and difficult-to-scan fingers".

They range in price from as little as $45.00 to $75.00 each and are certified by the FBI.

There are at least nine OEMs in this space.

There is even such a thing as a four finger, finger print reader.

This is part of a seemingly large industry known as Biometrics.

Seems like an idea that looks great on paper but rarely used or wanted by mainstream companies. Probably lots of service calls just to make a copy.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Fingerprint Authentication

SecuGen describes their finger print readers as:

"Auto-On automatic finger detection and Smart Capture for quality scanning of dry, moist, aged, scarred, and difficult-to-scan fingers".

They range in price from as little as $45.00 to $75.00 each and are certified by the FBI.

There are at least nine OEMs in this space.

There is even such a thing as a four finger, finger print reader.

This is part of a seemingly large industry known as Biometrics.

Fingerprint Scanners – Fulcrum Biometrics, Inc

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Fingerprint Authentication

Toshiba's user guide recommends the use of SecuGen products, the self claimed #1 vendor in this space.

Typical Applications

• Mobile, PC, or network security
• Bank and financial systems
• Medical information systems
• Labor and attendance tracking
• Any password-based application

[blackcat4866]

Re: Fingerprint Authentication

what specific kind of businesses that had a MFP, that you serviced, had this kind of security requirement? What industry? What brand MFP?

... any idea if the Security requirement came from their HQ or 3rd party Managed IT provider?

The customer I'm thinking of was an aftermarket auto parts retailer: fancy running boards, light kits, stereos, alarm systems, etc. And no, the requirement did not come from corporate, it was just a lone security obsessed IT guy. The machine was a Kyocera AlphardI Venus. At first, he would not give me any authentication at all ... didn't want me to use the machine at all. I have no problem with that. I went to the car and got assigned to another call. After that occasion, he conceded a login, but changed all the passwords after each service call. =^..^=

[KenB]

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Fingerprint Authentication

The machine is so SAFE noone wants to use it. =^..^=