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  • MFPTech
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    • Nov 2010
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    #1

    driver package installer for Biz C451?

    Is there a driver package installer for Biz C451?
    A customer is using the Authentication and account tracking and does not want the driver to default to Public ....

    Thanks!
  • emujo
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    #2
    You might want to post your question in the KM forum...I'm not sure I understand what your looking for, the CD that comes with the MFP is an "installer". Once you enable user authentication the MFP is always going to ask "who are you" prior to validating the print job. Regardless of "public user" status (allowed/restricted) the authentication box will pop up with public user selected. You can make it eaiser by setting the user name in the defaults. You could also allow "print w/o authentication" and turn off the pop ups, but then you defeat the authentication prurpose. Emujo
    If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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    • Stirton.M
      All things Konica Minolta

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      #3
      depending on whether or not you have a fiery controller or the standard controller, here is a link to the drivers for that series machine. C451/550/650 all use the same driver.

      Konica Minolta Knowlegebase

      Just be sure that two way communications is enabled, no firewall is preventing the driver to communicate with the machine, to properly carry over the installed options on the machine, including account track and authentication codes.

      Consult the "Print Operations" manual on specifics for the proper usage.

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      • MFPTech
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        #4
        Hello emujo,

        I am looking for a utility to customize the default settings of the driver. Customer does not want authenticating per each job ... waste of time. They want to enter only the data for account tracking. Btw, does this machine support Windows Authentication?
        Another problem is that the pop up window does not come in front of other windows in some Win 7 workstations but it stays down in the task bar although I have checked the right box. Any work around that?

        Thanks!

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        • MFPTech
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          #5
          No Fiery ...
          The driver communicates fine with the machine but the customer had a Xerox with less steps for authentication and account tracking, not to mention that the Xerox used to keep track of the users and the project codes respectively.

          Thanks!

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          • Stirton.M
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            #6
            The driver can be set permanently by the user to hold these codes.

            From the start menu, printers and faxes, right click the driver you want to modify and select properties. In windows 7, printer properties, not the last choice when the popup dialog appears.

            Then select "preferences".

            The window that appears is the same one seen when you choose to print from any application. You can set the authentication or copytrack codes here. Press "apply" and close the windows. From this point on, any application will use these settings when the user selects to print a document. Other defaults, such as setting the driver to use gray scale, can also be set here.

            Keep in mind that all windows applications should be closed before making this change. Programs like word will use the most recent changes to the print dialog from the last document printed, unless the application is closed. In other words, I open up a file, print it using duplex and two staple for THAT document, if I open up another document without closing word, if I select to print this newer document, word will use the setting of duplex and staple. Closing word will revert the settings used for the default, as described in the previous paragraph.

            There are no other methods to change the print driver behavior, remotely or otherwise. Group Policy Objects, a function of Windows, might be able to manipulate the driver, but I do not know if this is so or to what extent such controls may allow for. GPO's are usually the domain of the network administrator to control what a user on a network may or may not have access to on a windows based computer. For example, using different GPOs, I can restrict a user from opening up system programs like a DOS prompt or Task Manager. This requires extensive knowledge of network administration tools and is typically only seen on enterprise networks, rarely in small office environments.

            If the copytrack account codes are not static, that is, they change based on customer accounts, the default should not be used and the users will have to get used to manually entering the codes. Use of any other driver, even from KM, will not print to the MFP if account codes or authentication codes are used on the MFP.

            Outside of the driver, the use of the utility, Pagescope Data Administrator, will allow an administrator to view, change, delete, add new users and accounts, as well as export current usage reports of each account.

            You can find that program, amongst a few others with this link.

            Konica Minolta Knowlegebase

            Keep in mind that "account manager" and "authentication manager" programs, along with I suspect a few others in that directory, are not applicable to your machine. These are meant for the most recent model line KM produces.

            Consult the user manuals (previous link I left you) on the specific use and requirements for each program. Some of these programs contain their own manuals as well. And....

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            • Stirton.M
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              #7
              Originally posted by MFPTech
              Hello emujo,
              Btw, does this machine support Windows Authentication?
              Thanks!
              In short, no.

              As for account track and authentication, these are separate entities. They can be sync'd together, but are independent of each other. In account track, it is possible to set on the MFP to simply just ask for the pass code and no user name, though I am not 100% certain if the print driver will allow just the password field be set without a user name. The settings can be set using Data Administrator, or through a web browser, access to Pagescope Lite web interface, login as administrator, and set the configurations as you need under security.

              Keep in mind however, should you choose to change major settings regarding authentication and account track, such as enabling or disabling one or the other or both, that any and all account codes along with any compiled use numbers will be deleted from the mfp. This is unrecoverable. So should you choose to make changes at this level, be sure to back up the user data using Data Administrator.

              Windows 7 has its own way of doing things (placement of the password dialog/print dialog) and this is a function of the OS, not the driver. There might be a tweak for this behavior but I have my doubts.
              Last edited by Stirton.M; 01-29-2011, 04:48 AM.
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              • Mr Spock
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                #8
                Originally posted by Stirton.M
                In short, no.

                it is possible to set on the MFP to simply just ask for the pass code and no user name, though I am not 100% certain if the print driver will allow just the password field be set without a user name.
                On most KM with account track enabled with password only mode then the driver only needs the password saved. I have set this up for several accounts.
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                • MFPTech
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                  #9
                  Does it mean that Everybody has to share the same password?
                  The customer wants both Authentication and account tracking synchronized.

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                  • Stirton.M
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                    #10
                    It's up to you on how you set up the users.

                    Just to clarify something for you, it is not absolutely necessary to have both features, authentication and account track, running. They are almost the same thing and provide almost the same functionality, that is, preventing unauthorized use, restricting use on certain features. The biggest difference between the two is that account track contains more detail in its logs.

                    Of course, there are other more subtle differences not readily apparent to the end user, but as I said, both features do not need to be set simultaneously. Consult the user manuals on the specific differences.

                    You can set up as many user accounts as you need for general office needs, and if tracking client paper use, set up additional accounts for those. I think there is a machine limit of 1000 accounts, but there is a software suite from Pagescope that will allow a higher number. As I understand it, this is a purchasable option and I have never seen it ordered nor had the chance to play with it to see how it works. There is mention of this application in the user manual as well.
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                    • Stirton.M
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                      #11
                      I have to insert a correction to an earlier statement about windows authentication.

                      The machine is capable of LDAP. Consult the network administrator on the availability of LDAP on their network, whether or not it is enabled and configured. Once it is enabled, the MFP can authenticate through that process. Consult the user manual on the specifics of LDAP setup for the MFP itself.
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                      • MFPTech
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Stirton.M
                        I have to insert a correction to an earlier statement about windows authentication.

                        The machine is capable of LDAP. Consult the network administrator on the availability of LDAP on their network, whether or not it is enabled and configured. Once it is enabled, the MFP can authenticate through that process. Consult the user manual on the specifics of LDAP setup for the MFP itself.

                        LDAP and Windows authentication are two different things. I have set both up with Ricoh machines.

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                        • RSFarrer
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                          • Sep 2008
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                          #13
                          awesome replies and info.

                          I would add that user authentication requires the user to enter their network username and password on the panel to utilize the MFP IF you are authenticating to a server so that IT only has one place, AD, to enter the users. We have cases that require this and as mentioned LDAP speeds up the process.

                          This is a pain to the end-user. People and/or sales often ask for this, but when possible I steer them to Account Track only.

                          On color KM MFPs, there is also a public mode that allows all black/white usage without a code which I promote quite a bit.

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                          • emujo
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                            #14
                            I would add that if you need constantly changing codes (law office client codes for exmp) 1 3rd party add on like Equitrac or copy guard would probably be the better way to go. The server will collect the appropriate info and pass the job along to the printer. Emujo
                            If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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