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  • RollingROARANDA
    Technician
    • Nov 2012
    • 72

    #16
    Re: SMB vs FTP scanning

    Originally posted by habik
    SMB all the way! + gmail where possible. FTP only for mac's with enabling FTP services through Terminal.


    Sent from my iDon't believe in marketing device using Tapatalk

    Exactly, thats the gig in a broad sense.

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    • CorbinDallas
      Technician

      50+ Posts
      • Mar 2012
      • 56

      #17
      Regarding speed. FTP transfers at a faster rate than SMB. It will result in faster completion of large files.

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      • ApeosMan
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        • Nov 2009
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        #18
        Re: SMB vs FTP scanning

        Lets put it this way FTP is a much older file sharing protocol than SMB/Samba and FTP hasn't been updated in years. FTP can be routed over the internet, SMB can't unless there is a VPN involved. FTP can be more painful to setup as you usually need to enable an FTP service/FTP program.

        I'd suggest using SMB as it's the common file sharing protocol today, the only problem is that Apple and Microsoft tend to change SMB versions which can throw off MFP's from time to time.

        I tend to use FTP as a last resort if the customer insists on scanning to a folder and SMB just doesn't want to work.

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        • ApeosMan
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          #19
          Re: SMB vs FTP scanning

          Originally posted by CorbinDallas
          Regarding speed. FTP transfers at a faster rate than SMB. It will result in faster completion of large files.

          It really depends, I've seen server 'connection' times with passive FTP take longer on a mac due to the firewall negotiating a port to use. Some alterations on the firewall resolved that issue.

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          • pic-nic
            Technician
            • Sep 2012
            • 11

            #20
            Re: SMB vs FTP scanning

            In this order:

            Email
            Exchange
            Gmail
            ISP SMTP

            SMB
            Server Shares
            Workstation shares

            FTP
            IIS
            FileZilla

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            • rthonpm
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              • Aug 2007
              • 2849

              #21
              Re: SMB vs FTP scanning

              Originally posted by pic-nic
              In this order:

              Email
              Exchange
              Gmail
              ISP SMTP

              SMB
              Server Shares
              Workstation shares

              FTP
              IIS
              FileZilla
              I'd have to agree except that I also give my users a warning anytime they want to scan to any email account not in their direct control that if changes are made and it breaks, they're on their own.

              As my comments probably show, I tend to favour SMB over FTP most of the time, just because there's better management available as to who has access to what. FTP has come in handy a few times though, so I wouldn't completely count it out, but it's always a last resort for me.

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              • slimslob
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                #22
                Re: SMB vs FTP scanning

                Originally posted by rthonpm
                I'd have to agree except that I also give my users a warning anytime they want to scan to any email account not in their direct control that if changes are made and it breaks, they're on their own.

                As my comments probably show, I tend to favour SMB over FTP most of the time, just because there's better management available as to who has access to what. FTP has come in handy a few times though, so I wouldn't completely count it out, but it's always a last resort for me.
                I have ran into in recent problem with scan to email. I first encountered with Yahoo and today with AOL. If the sender's domain does not match the domain of the smtp server, the emails are being bounced by the addressee's domain. Example, if the customer tries to send to himself/herself, is using their Yahoo or AOL email as the sender, and the SMTP server is their ISP's, Yahoo/AOL will not receive the message and will send a not deliverable message back to the sender. I have started using the authentication address as the default sender.

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                • Wind Cool
                  Technician
                  • May 2014
                  • 82

                  #23
                  Re: SMB vs FTP scanning

                  Originally posted by MatthewS
                  Hi can someone tell me what method of folder scanning is recommended or better SMB or FTP? and tell me the pros and cons to both methods if possible.

                  SMB is Develop by Microsoft and is mainly file sharing between Window to Window.
                  So if you use Scan by using SMB it would require more setting compare with FTP.
                  Because it require to update firmware, Firewall Setting,& File Sharing Setting.
                  And sometimes it won't work because of AD Directory or Domain issue.
                  The only advantage of SMB is you can use Computer name to address the path without Fix IP address.
                  But if you change your window Login name or password. It require to resetup the Copier in Address book management.

                  FTP is develop by suit all others OS. Even one day if you use Window 10 or 11 in future.. it would effect the version unless Window don't support FTP anymore.
                  But FTP require FIX IP address, that is why you need to convince your customer or Boss to change to Fix IP in each PC.

                  Normally FTP suitable small and medium company because can change the PC to FIX IP easy without Approval.
                  SMB are more in Manufacture or Corporate.

                  There others alternative ways is using Scan to Copier hard disk (Storage) then retrieve PDF from IE browser but would be much more slower of the process.

                  Hope will help you with this advice.

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                  • ruben
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                    • Oct 2012
                    • 1204

                    #24
                    Re: SMB vs FTP scanning

                    Originally posted by Wind Cool
                    The only advantage of SMB is you can use Computer name to address the path without Fix IP address.
                    You can also FTP to a machines hostname. Example: "ftp://computer/path/to/scans/etc". There are very few differences between FTP and SMB, I would prefer FTP as it is generally* faster.

                    *Not always.

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                    • darius79

                      #25
                      Re: SMB vs FTP scanning

                      Originally posted by ruben
                      You can also FTP to a machines hostname. Example: "ftp://computer/path/to/scans/etc".
                      I tried what you have mentioned but it didn't work. but works on static ip

                      Copier: Ricoh MP C2500
                      my computer name is: MAX
                      shared folder name is: scan (active directory in ftp server configured in iis, shared path is "\\MAX\scan")

                      I typed in "ftp://max" in web browser keyed in username and pass... and it worked. i could see the files

                      similiarly, i typed in "ftp://max" in copier ftp manual entry, left path blank, keyed in username and password and it didn't work.

                      i revert back to binding the ftp server with a static ip. Entered the static ip as the server name and it worked. What am i doing wrong?

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                      • leonardob
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                        #26
                        Re: SMB vs FTP scanning

                        Originally posted by Wind Cool

                        FTP is develop by suit all others OS. Even one day if you use Window 10 or 11 in future.. it would effect the version unless Window don't support FTP anymore.
                        But FTP require FIX IP address, that is why you need to convince your customer or Boss to change to Fix IP in each PC.

                        .

                        To complete the good post .

                        Most small medium companies do not have a internal IP address policy , and use DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) to assign IP addresses to workstations and network devices. Normally the DHCP server is in the router or in the network switch , in the event of this devices to reboot (by any reason) it may assign a different IP address than the previously assigned to the workstations , in this way the destinations set up on the MFP would not work anymore.

                        We find FTP is a much more reliable Transfer Protocol than SMB specially if a multi platform environment (Windows x Mac x Unix) . If anyone knows a workaround this please advise (Fix IP) .
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                        • Hansoon
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                          #27
                          Re: SMB vs FTP scanning

                          How to Set Up DHCP Reservations (and Never Check an IP Address Again)

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                          • slimslob
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                            • May 2013
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                            #28
                            Re: SMB vs FTP scanning

                            It is done at the DHCP server. Exact steps depends on the server.

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                            • allan
                              RTFM!!

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                              • Apr 2010
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                              #29
                              Re: SMB vs FTP scanning

                              Ftp utility is to unstable. There is to many things that can mess with is like windows policies anti-virus and firewall. SMB works ok is LDAP is working otherwise changing passwords stops that from working. I find if you setup FTP service that comes with windows it works the best. Or use central FTP server for all the users, Filezilla works great for that.
                              Whatever

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                              • babar123

                                #30
                                Re: SMB vs FTP scanning

                                Hi

                                I need some help, Recently I installed ricoh mp5000 machine in my customer place they have windows 8.1, Scan to folder not working with this operating system , Have anybody idea how to configure smb with windows8.1....

                                I don't have any idea how to used FTP, Yesterday I was installed filezilla server and easy ftp server and also installed smart ftp client but am not able to configure with ftp, I need some help for this thing how am make user in filezilla or easy ftp server like in the path which path am write as network path or write local path, I make a folder in my Eriver and am also share this folder in my network, Which path name am write ? ..... I need fully support for configure ftp .. if anybody knows please do help mine. Here is my email address .

                                babar@katunimage.ae

                                Thanks & Regards
                                Syed Babar Ali.

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