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  • havokprod
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    • Oct 2012
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    #1

    Windows 10

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  • JR2ALTA
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    #2
    Re: Windows 10

    This occurred to me too. We charge if a client's hard/software upgrades require a service call. So this could be a windfall.

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    • nmfaxman
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      #3
      Re: Windows 10

      I have a Win 7 laptop and a Win 8.1 desktop.
      I am going to wait until the last minute to upgrade while checking for problems. Remember Windows Vista?

      Any customer that upgrades without checking me first is going to be billed big bucks per hour.
      IT nerds still think of the copier as an HP type printer. In 15 years of network installs I have never been asked if it will affect the equipment before they upgrade.
      Why do they call it common sense?

      If it were common, wouldn't everyone have it?

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      • sandmanmac
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        #4
        Re: Windows 10

        Originally posted by nmfaxman
        I have a Win 7 laptop and a Win 8.1 desktop.
        I am going to wait until the last minute to upgrade while checking for problems. Remember Windows Vista?

        Any customer that upgrades without checking me first is going to be billed big bucks per hour.
        IT nerds still think of the copier as an HP type printer. In 15 years of network installs I have never been asked if it will affect the equipment before they upgrade.
        I agree. I read somewhere along the way that all devices working on Win 8.1, would be fully compatible, or work without interruption (or something along those lines). This 'one click' upgrade is an interesting strategy by MS, but I predict a firestorm of compatibility issues when the update /upgrade rolls out, and like you NM, I've never been asked (but always blamed) when an upgrade screws things up!

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        • rthonpm
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          #5
          Re: Windows 10

          Microsoft has gotten much better at keeping the core of an OS consistent even though everything around it changed. So far my Windows 10 test machine has worked with everything I've thrown at it from Windows 7. The only initial issues I had were with scan to SMB, but that has started to work with the last two builds of the Technical Preview. I put my 10 machine on Active Directory, which broke a few of the update modules until I stripped them out of the Testing OU so I was quite behind in my Preview build.

          Let's also keep in mind that what we're seeing now is still not the final product and that domain bound machines won't be getting the upgrade immediately: it will be available primarily to standalone and consumer based PC's. If your customers are running workgroups instead of Active Directory, you'll still be seeing Windows 7 and 8.1 for some time to come.
          Last edited by rthonpm; 06-30-2015, 02:23 PM. Reason: Cleared up post

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          • blsquires
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            #6
            Re: Windows 10

            being of a suspicious nature,
            i wonder if the windows 10 that will be given away free to windows users for twelve months will turn out to have an annual license fee that pops up after the twelve months like the wonderful office 365.

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            • rthonpm
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              #7
              Re: Windows 10

              It's unlikely that Microsoft will go with the subscription model for the OS. Their main concern is to try and get as many people onto Windows 10 as possible to make it easier in terms of long term support. The last thing they want is a repeat of the XP retirement where all the stick in the muds complained about a retirement they knew was coming.

              Windows 7 is supported until 2020, and Windows 8 until 2023. By that time the vast majority of computers will already be running Windows 10.

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              • slimslob
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                Re: Windows 10

                I have already looked into Windows 7 update to Windows 10. According to Microsoft, if you update and do not like it, you can roll back to Windows 7. I have a Windows 7 laptop that I updated from Vista. I use it at work. At home I have Windows 8 laptop. Once I installed some of the Windows 7 games and I found and installed Classic Shell so that it boots to the Desktop Windows 8 was tolerable.

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                • NeoMatrix
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                  #9
                  Re: Windows 10

                  IMHO Free installation of Win10 smell like a trap.
                  Will Microsoft use the platform to "divide and conquer" a bigger slice of the internet an it's inter-connected device market?
                  I'm thinking a full competition/capitalist totally separate Microsoft cloud based internet allowing only Microsoft products, which will limit any 3rd party inter-connections. Microsoft already limits connection to google internet in some applications. A free software upgrade ?????, something is not right.

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                  • emujo
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                    Re: Windows 10

                    I read that the upgrade is "free" for 1 year, then the product must be licensed ($$$). Emujo
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                    • slimslob
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                      Re: Windows 10

                      Originally posted by emujo
                      I read that the upgrade is "free" for 1 year, then the product must be licensed ($$$). Emujo
                      From what I have read, Windows 10 is a free upgrade for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 during the first year after its initial release date. If you upgrade during that 1 year period then the licensing is for the life of the computer that you upgrade. If you wait until after t he 1 year period then you will need to pay a licensing fee. This is Microsoft's attempt to encourage everyone to upgrade so that they do not have the same situation with Windows 7 that they have with XP.

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                      • wseyller
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                        #12
                        Re: Windows 10

                        Originally posted by emujo
                        I read that the upgrade is "free" for 1 year, then the product must be licensed ($$$). Emujo
                        I keep reading the opposite but Microsoft keeps changing its mind on who get what free. Guess we will find out.

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                        • qbert69
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                          #13
                          Re: Windows 10 GWX REMOVAL!!!

                          The update for Windows 10 (GWX - Get Windows 10--Roman Numeral "X") is KB3035583 and was "slipped" under the radar by microsoft!...I read the description of GWX and it said NOTHING about being an "upgrade" patch!

                          So, IMO, this is a piece of nagware/malware that was DISHONESTLY rolled out by microsoft!

                          If you don't want it, uninstall it!...just make sure that after you uninstall the the KB3035583 "update" that you hide that particular update so it doesn't show in your update list!

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                          • rthonpm
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                            #14
                            Re: Windows 10

                            Here's a little more clarity on the whole Windows 10 thing: No, Windows 10 Won

                            I actually took the plunge and went from doing testing on a virtual machine to installing Windows 10 on my main use laptop. So far I haven't run across a piece of software that hasn't worked yet.

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                            • wseyller
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                              #15
                              Re: Windows 10

                              Originally posted by rthonpm
                              Here's a little more clarity on the whole Windows 10 thing: No, Windows 10 Won

                              I actually took the plunge and went from doing testing on a virtual machine to installing Windows 10 on my main use laptop. So far I haven't run across a piece of software that hasn't worked yet.
                              I did the same a couple weeks ago. Works great.

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