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  • luis1984bol
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Nov 2011
    • 148

    #1

    [Misc] iR C4580 DADF T1 Feeder Problem

    Hello my friends:

    I have a Canon iRC 4580 machine with this feeder problem:

    After placing the paper into de feeder and press the star button, the machine stays "scanning" for a long time and nothing happends. It does not show any error code or jam error. I have to turn off the machine in order to use it again. Copying from the glass works fine.

    I just clean all the sensors, performed the SENS-INIT and update the firmware but the problem continues.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks for your help!
  • teckat
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    10,000+ Posts
    • Jan 2010
    • 16083

    #2
    Re: iR C4580 DADF T1 Feeder Problem

    Originally posted by luis1984bol
    Hello my friends:

    I have a Canon iRC 4580 machine with this feeder problem:

    After placing the paper into de feeder and press the star button, the machine stays "scanning" for a long time and nothing happends. It does not show any error code or jam error. I have to turn off the machine in order to use it again. Copying from the glass works fine.

    I just clean all the sensors, performed the SENS-INIT and update the firmware but the problem continues.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks for your help!
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    Do u see a message on the bottom of the control panel.
    "The feeder should be inspected. Please contact your service representative."

    Paper does not feed to glass with this DADF-TI (has CIS)

    --Is doc set light on in DF when u place paper ( Original placement indication)
    When an original is placed on the tray, the detecting lever operates in conjunction with the light-blocking plate, during which the light-blocking plate blocks the
    light of the photo interrupter. As a result, the original detection sensor (PI5) generates the original detection signal (EMP_S), which will cause the DADF controller
    PCB to turn on the original placement indicator.

    Is CIS Xenon lamp on when u press START

    --Are u getting paper pick up



    DADF controller drives M6 when necessary and moves the CIS glass. By executing such procedure, the DADF controller compares reflection data of the standard white plate
    position with that of the image scanning position.

    [1] Check M6 in PART CHECK> MTR-CHK> 5 for operation and verify the connection of
    J214 on ADF Driver PCB (PCB7).
    [2] Check for PI13 sensor state in service mode FEEDER>I/O > P006 - 6 (0:HP) and verify
    the connection of J412 on ADF Controller PCB (PCB1).

    PI13 - CIS glass moving HP Sensor WG8-5593-000
    M6 - CIS glass moving motor FK2-3715-000
    PCB1 - ADF controller PCB FM3-0369-000
    NOTE: Before you replacing the ADF Controller PCB (PCB1), print a P_PRINT and see the description given under "After Replacing the ADF Controller PCB" on the host machine
    service manual.
    DADF-T1.jpg
    **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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    • luis1984bol
      Trusted Tech

      100+ Posts
      • Nov 2011
      • 148

      #3
      Re: iR C4580 DADF T1 Feeder Problem

      Originally posted by teckat
      ============================================
      Do u see a message on the bottom of the control panel.
      "The feeder should be inspected. Please contact your service representative."

      Paper does not feed to glass with this DADF-TI (has CIS)

      --Is doc set light on in DF when u place paper ( Original placement indication)
      When an original is placed on the tray, the detecting lever operates in conjunction with the light-blocking plate, during which the light-blocking plate blocks the
      light of the photo interrupter. As a result, the original detection sensor (PI5) generates the original detection signal (EMP_S), which will cause the DADF controller
      PCB to turn on the original placement indicator.

      Is CIS Xenon lamp on when u press START

      --Are u getting paper pick up



      DADF controller drives M6 when necessary and moves the CIS glass. By executing such procedure, the DADF controller compares reflection data of the standard white plate
      position with that of the image scanning position.

      [1] Check M6 in PART CHECK> MTR-CHK> 5 for operation and verify the connection of
      J214 on ADF Driver PCB (PCB7).
      [2] Check for PI13 sensor state in service mode FEEDER>I/O > P006 - 6 (0:HP) and verify
      the connection of J412 on ADF Controller PCB (PCB1).

      PI13 - CIS glass moving HP Sensor WG8-5593-000
      M6 - CIS glass moving motor FK2-3715-000
      PCB1 - ADF controller PCB FM3-0369-000
      NOTE: Before you replacing the ADF Controller PCB (PCB1), print a P_PRINT and see the description given under "After Replacing the ADF Controller PCB" on the host machine
      service manual.
      [ATTACH=CONFIG]32482[/ATTACH]
      Thank you my friend, I'll let you know the results!!..

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      • Canuck
        Tech Specialist

        1,000+ Posts
        • Nov 2007
        • 1713

        #4
        Re: iR C4580 DADF T1 Feeder Problem

        One pass feeder I believe...probably 0094 codes. Yuck..Clean transmitters and receivers, make sure prisms are clean and mounted properly. Check their analog values in service mode..

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