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  • first.clis
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2017
    • 7

    #1

    [Misc] Changing Value Counter

    i've done changing the value of counter, but this not perfectly.
    if you want to join with me to develop this program, just PM. but its not free to share .
    need proof? say what you need.
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  • JPiek
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Oct 2014
    • 435

    #2
    Re: Changing Value Counter

    So your looking for someone to participate in delevopling a tool to cheat someone out of their money ?

    Someone is going to use it for not paying for their prints, or for selling a Copyer that has a lot more milage then the counter suggests.

    I don't know what bothers me more... I DO know that some day a tech is gonna scratch his head at these machines why they fail on a sertain part where it should not yet do so, considering the usage on the counter.

    Just for that, someone should smack you with a wrench....
    Johan

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    • teckat
      Field Supervisor

      Site Contributor
      10,000+ Posts
      • Jan 2010
      • 16083

      #3
      Re: Changing Value Counter

      Originally posted by first.clis
      i've done changing the value of counter, but this not perfectly.
      if you want to join with me to develop this program, just PM. but its not free to share .
      need proof? say what you need.

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      • first.clis
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2017
        • 7

        #4
        Re: Changing Value Counter

        Originally posted by JPiek
        So your looking for someone to participate in delevopling a tool to cheat someone out of their money ?

        Someone is going to use it for not paying for their prints, or for selling a Copyer that has a lot more milage then the counter suggests.

        I don't know what bothers me more... I DO know that some day a tech is gonna scratch his head at these machines why they fail on a sertain part where it should not yet do so, considering the usage on the counter.

        Just for that, someone should smack you with a wrench....
        really? why untill now, no one have smack me?

        Originally posted by teckat

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        there is no law about this, why jail?

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        • JPiek
          Trusted Tech

          250+ Posts
          • Oct 2014
          • 435

          #5
          Re: Changing Value Counter

          Originally posted by first.clis
          really? why untill now, no one have smack me?
          Since when did 'getting away with it' mean is legal or ok ?

          You KNOW what the counter is used for, you KNOW it saves money if you lower it. There is NO OTHER reason to lower it.

          Walk over to a buyer of a machine you lowered the counter from, tell him he payed to much because the counter was lowered by you. See if you can walk away without a black eye...
          Tell a company they lost money because a couple of thousand prints where never billed due to a lowered counter, see if you get sued or not...

          there is no law about this, why jail?
          There is now law about this ? In my book this is fraude and tampering with counters. The same as turning back the milage on your car before selling. The principal is the same..

          Read this :

          Odometer fraud - Wikipedia

          Odometer fraud, also referred to as "busting miles" (United States) or "clocking" (UK and Ireland), is the illegal practice of rolling back odometers to make it appear that vehicles have lower mileage than they actually do. Odometer fraud occurs when the seller of a vehicle falsely represents the actual mileage of a vehicle to the buyer.[1]
          According to the Office of Odometer Fraud Investigation at the US Department of Transportation,[2] odometer fraud is a serious crime and important consumer fraud issue.
          And this :
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampering_(crime)

          The crime is often linked with attempts to extort money from the manufacturer, and in many cases no contamination to a product ever takes place. Fraud is sometimes handled as a matter of civil law, but actual modification of products is almost always a matter of criminal law.
          This is my last reply, if you don't (want to) understand, I can't fix stupidity...
          Johan

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          • Canuck
            Tech Specialist

            1,000+ Posts
            • Nov 2007
            • 1713

            #6
            Re: Changing Value Counter

            Originally posted by first.clis
            really? why untill now, no one have smack me?



            there is no law about this, why jail?
            Its called fraud...

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            • V-P
              Senior Tech

              Site Contributor
              500+ Posts
              • Apr 2011
              • 679

              #7
              Re: Changing Value Counter

              Guys guys...

              If you look closely - this guy just photoshop-ed the new numbers.

              He is not capable of changing the counters

              He is not a fraud. He is a fisherman looking for idiots

              Probably some 16 year kid trying to show off....

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              • first.clis
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2017
                • 7

                #8
                Re: Changing Value Counter

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                • onlyinnewfoundland
                  Trusted Tech

                  100+ Posts
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 235

                  #9
                  Re: Changing Value Counter

                  isnt the counter PCB tied to the serial of the device??

                  My boss swapped a main PCB on a 6065 once without moving the smaller pcbs - counter went back to 0 - not sure how that worked without getting tons of errors, but anyway. Machine only had about 10k on it so wasn't such a big deal.

                  I think the serial of the device changed though if I am correct.

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                  • teckat
                    Field Supervisor

                    Site Contributor
                    10,000+ Posts
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 16083

                    #10
                    Re: Changing Value Counter

                    Originally posted by onlyinnewfoundland
                    isnt the counter PCB tied to the serial of the device??

                    My boss swapped a main PCB on a 6065 once without moving the smaller pcbs - counter went back to 0 - not sure how that worked without getting tons of errors, but anyway. Machine only had about 10k on it so wasn't such a big deal.

                    I think the serial of the device changed though if I am correct.

                    Canon------------August 9, 2016
                    All imageRUNNER ADVANCE Series / All imagePRESS Series / All imageRUNNER Series

                    Counter PCBs and SATA Flash PCBs are no longer available for purchase.


                    E350 / E355*NOTE 1: For any of these error codes, do not swap any PCB's from any other machine. Doing so may render both machines unrecoverable.
                    *NOTE 2: Do not use any of the User Mode or Service Mode clears when encountering these error codes.

                    Executing the Service Mode or User Mode clears may render the machine unrecoverable.
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                    • teckat
                      Field Supervisor

                      Site Contributor
                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 16083

                      #11
                      Re: Changing Value Counter

                      Originally posted by first.clis



                      Please take your nonsense somewhere else----this is a support site---- >

                      I personally fired techs for less then that
                      **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                      • nmfaxman
                        Service Manager

                        Site Contributor
                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1702

                        #12
                        Re: Changing Value Counter

                        Showing how to cheat customers is the antithesis of what this site should stand for.
                        The majority of us are here to solve problems, not cause them.
                        Why do they call it common sense?

                        If it were common, wouldn't everyone have it?

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                        • Phil B.
                          Field Supervisor

                          10,000+ Posts
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 22798

                          #13
                          Re: Changing Value Counter

                          Originally posted by JPiek

                          Just for that, someone should smack you with a wrench....
                          or report him for fraud....

                          people like that are nothing more than a cheating used car salesman.

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                          • ss12
                            Trusted Tech

                            250+ Posts
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 289

                            #14
                            Re: Changing Value Counter

                            I'm sure that if somebody reported the serial no. to Canon(which he's handily pointed out),they may be able to trace where the machine was sold

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                            • first.clis
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2017
                              • 7

                              #15
                              Re: Changing Value Counter

                              really

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