Reviving Canon IR c5180

[nicko6113]

Hey,

I just bought a used c5180. it was not tested and looks to have been sitting for a long time. i got it fired up and so far it has turned on and sort of works.
Im having print quality issues.

The colors are all misaligned sometimes its worse than other times. And also the transfer belt has some roller marks where it must have been sitting in the same place for a while. and im thinking this is causing it to slip some.
Im going to disassemble the transfer belt assembly and clean it. as the inside is quite dusty with toner as its made some rough bumps during moving.

Im also having issues getting into the print settings with the attached fiery. it seems to be booting fine. (Fiery was removed prior to rough moves) but upon selecting print settings it gives a message about if this could take time and to check the connections if this takes long. sometimes it switches to please wait. but never goes into a menu. so i cant print to it yet.

Im hoping to get this thing working well.

[guitar9199]

Re: Reviving Canon IR c5180

Fiery units take F O R E V E R to boot into a usable screen. Never was a big fan of them.

If the machine's been sitting that long, you're likely to run into issues with the fuser unit, which WILL get very expensive ($1300-$1400). Those cannot be rebuilt/repaired in the field, and must be sent to Canon for refurbishing.

[zoraldinho]

Re: Reviving Canon IR c5180

I agree.Machine probably need a good cleaning,new fuser and itb.If drums are ok then probably need clearing registration and new calibration.$$$$$$$$$........

[nicko6113]

Re: Reviving Canon IR c5180

fusing seems to be good. and drums are questionable. the machine has 54000 copies on it. and its now deemed for home use.

i have a service manual for it but im having trouble finding the section on registration.

how long is forever?

[nicko6113]

Re: Reviving Canon IR c5180

so i did some reading. and i think my first step should be to pull the transfer belt off and clean the rollers as it might be slipping. it has seemed to get better as more copies have gone through.

also any one have the recovery software for the fiery just in case?

[roho]

Re: Reviving Canon IR c5180

Probably forever.......
I'm thinking you will need to reload the system software on the Fiery, this model was infamous for crapping out. You could also tell the device is does not have a print server and just use the device alone to print, by changing the service mode setting.

Colour reg will be the ITB, on the prior model (IRC 3200) I would take the belt of the ITB and clean the rollers and was usually good to go. I never had that luck on this model as they must have made enough corrections that when it goes out it goes out. I never had many issues with this model unlike the 3200. If I remember I used to replaace the assembly nand reuse the belt, however I had customers to get running again as soon as I could so I never really tried to troubleshoot the ITB on it's own. Good luck!

[nicko6113]

Re: Reviving Canon IR c5180

where could i obtain the software to reload it?

[teckat]

Re: Reviving Canon IR c5180

where could i obtain the software to reload it?

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U first need to print out a P PRINT
shows Firmware ver.

imagePass H1, needs to be recognized in printer under
INT-FACE/IMG-CONT - set to "3"

INT-FACE/IMG-CONT must be set to 3
Is the Interface Communications cable Attached from H1 To 5185❓
Is your Network Cable attached from H1 To your Network connection❓

On H1>
Crossover connector is lower bottom
Network connector is right above it
Next is USB, Next is Interface Cable

1) Press (=>) displayed at upper right on the LCD of
the connecting device.
2) At the Control Panel, press [Printer]tab.
3) Press [Printer Status/Settings].
4) At the Languages Setup screen, select the name of
the language you want to use, and then select OK.
Wait a few minutes.

Input of password
When setting it up, the password input screen is displayed.
When the following password is input, Fiery.1 you can enter a
setup screen.

In response, the machine will automatically show the
Settings menu. Be sure to at least select the following
and make the appropriate settings in the indicated order:
[Server Setup], [Network Setup], and [Printer Setup].
For more information, see Configuration and
Setup on the User Documentation.

Once you have made the various settings
under [Server Setup], you will be shown a screen asking
you if you want to store the settings. Select [yes] so
that the system will be stored in memory. Unless you
have made appropriate settings in the correct order and
saved them, you will not be able to go on to the next
item.
Making Server Settings:
Make the appropriate settings including the name
of the server.
Making Network Settings:
Make the appropriate settings including port, protocol,
and service.
Making Printer Settings:
Make the appropriate settings including print
queue.
Select [close] on the Settings menu. In response, the
system will restart automatically.
When there is a difference in the network setting between
Main body and PS Unit, the system will detect
the difference to change the setting and a following
message will appear on the bottom of the LCD of Main
body.
[Turn off the main power switch(on the main
unit's bottom side)] is displayed on the LCD.
Turn off the power supply. Turn on the power supply
in ten seconds.
Checking the Operation After
Making the Settings
Print out a test page and a settings page as follows to
make sure that all settings have correctly been made on
the machine and its host machine and that all connections
are normal:
1) Press (=>) displayed at upper right on the LCD of
the connecting device.
2) At the Control Panel, press [Print].
3) Press [Printer Status/Settings].
4) Make the following selections on the LCD:function>
print page>test page/configuration.


The Unit-H1 has its own power supply and AC power cable. To function, the Unit-H1
must be connected to the print engine and to a proper AC power outlet. The Unit-H1
will not start up until the print engine is powered on. Powering off the print engine
powers off the Unit-H1 also.
Select the Printer tab on the print engine LCD, and then select Printer Status/Setting.
Select Functions from the print engine LCD.
Select Print Pages from the print engine LCD.
Select the Test Page, Configuration page, or other page from the Print Pages menu
If the Test Page prints, you know that the Unit-H1 is functional and that the connection
between the Unit-H1 and the print engine is good.

[teckat]

[teckat]

Re: Reviving Canon IR c5180

"iRC5180 Color Shift Prevention & Correction" on Scribd. Check it out: iRC5180 Color Shift Prevention & Correction | Printer (Computing) | Laser

[nicko6113]

Re: Reviving Canon IR c5180

thank you i will try the registration when i get home.

also i have not been able to get by step 3) Press [Printer Status/Settings].

it just gets stuck at check connections or please wait.

[teckat]

Re: Reviving Canon IR c5180

thank you i will try the registration when i get home.

also i have not been able to get by step 3) Press [Printer Status/Settings].

it just gets stuck at check connections or please wait.

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H1 has three connections:
Crossover Cable from Printer to H1 box
Ethernet Cable from H1 box to Wall Network Connection
Interface Cable from H1 box to Printer.

Link to Service\Install Guide

Dropbox - docslide.com.br_imagepass-h1-color-network-printer-unit-h1-service-guide-2.pdf


Same links here
Canon ir c4080 Networking question

[nicko6113]

Re: Reviving Canon IR c5180

had some good results today. i got rid of the heavy smudging in the prints and i got the paperdesk up and feeding paper reliably. i tried the registration settings and couldnt figure out how to print the grid page.

i did try switching the interface to 0 but the copier would not pull dhcp or respond to ping on a static address. i think im missing the functionality for that.

reset the interface for the fiery and still cannot connect. did a sector check on the harddrive and it passed with no issues. and the drives smart also passed. but still will not open in the menu.

[teckat]

Re: Reviving Canon IR c5180

had some good results today. i got rid of the heavy smudging in the prints and i got the paperdesk up and feeding paper reliably. i tried the registration settings and couldnt figure out how to print the grid page.

i did try switching the interface to 0 but the copier would not pull dhcp or respond to ping on a static address. i think im missing the functionality for that.

reset the interface for the fiery and still cannot connect. did a sector check on the harddrive and it passed with no issues. and the drives smart also passed. but still will not open in the menu.

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did u download and read the H1 service guide link above


Test Prints=Go into service mode level 1
under
COPIER>TEST>PG>TYPE
Performs test print when test print type number is entered and start key is turned ON. (This setting must always be
restored to 0 after making test print.)

under Type=enter #6 for Grid Pattern print out.

Entered number - Description
0 -Image from CCD (normal print)
1 -For development
2 -For development
3 -For development
4 -16 gradations
5 -Full-sheet half tones
6 -Grid
7 -For development
8 -For development
9 -For development
10 -MCYBk horizontal stripes
11 -For development
12 -YMCBk 64 gradations
13 -For development
14 -Full-color 16 gradations
15 to 100 For development


#6-#5 and #10 are the basic checks

DENS-Y/M/C/K= Used to adjust density of each color for test prints (TYPE = 5).
Setting values
0 to 255: Increasing the value increases the density.
[Factory default/After RAM clear: 128]


COLOR-Y/M/C/K Used to set output of each color for each TYPE.
For example, to set single-color M output, set "COLOR-M = 1", and make the other settings 0 (only single colors can be output).
Setting values
0: Don't output
1: Output
[Factory default/After RAM clear: 1]

[nicko6113]

Re: Reviving Canon IR c5180

i did read the manual but unless i missed something it didn't really show anything to troubleshoot it. i did plug a monitor into it and it booted to decompressing kernel. and from prior fiery experience it switched to the copier video output. and the diag display goes to 00.

i tried setting the pg type to 6 and then clicked ok. i figured after that i would hit the start button? and that caused it to make a normal copy from the glass. i did get it to print out a copy of all of its current settings but that was from a different menu.


after reading the registration guide the black laser lens is always set to the mid point. and is never adjusted could it have got shifted during transportation? the overall print is off the top of the page also.