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  • wild140
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Feb 2017
    • 70

    [Misc] Canon Double count Ledger

    On a Color Canon , where is service mode do I turn this feature on ?
    Thank you in advance for the responses
  • Phil B.
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    • Jul 2016
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    #2
    Re: Canon Double count Ledger

    Originally posted by wild140
    On a Color Canon , where is service mode do I turn this feature on ?
    Thank you in advance for the responses
    did you try the service manual?

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    • teckat
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      • Jan 2010
      • 16092

      #3
      Re: Canon Double count Ledger

      https://www.printtracker.net/downloa...on_Devices.pdf


      https://condoroffice.co.uk/manuals/iradv33xx/contents/1T0002896381.html


      Counter2 to 6 can be changed in service mode: COPIER > OPTION > USER




      set one of the counters to 102, this will show double clicks for ledger

      customer must be advised of this added change, if billing is in effect to report this Total 2
      especially if volume is taken into contract price.

      Prevents conflicts
      Last edited by teckat; 04-05-2019, 05:02 PM.
      **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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      • wild140
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        50+ Posts
        • Feb 2017
        • 70

        #4
        Re: Canon Double count Ledger

        102 shows up on the report but the large color does not increment from month to month .
        The report shows the following
        101 total 1
        102 total 2
        106 total ( full color 2 )
        109 total (Black 2 )
        120 Total ( Full Color Large ) This is the one that does not move
        121 ( Full color small )
        I know the end user is printing color ledger pages .

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        • teckat
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          • Jan 2010
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          #5
          Re: Canon Double count Ledger

          Originally posted by wild140
          102 shows up on the report but the large color does not increment from month to month .
          The report shows the following
          101 total 1
          102 total 2
          106 total ( full color 2 )
          109 total (Black 2 )
          120 Total ( Full Color Large ) This is the one that does not move
          121 ( Full color small )
          I know the end user is printing color ledger pages .
          U mean 120 never moves ?

          Two clicks for LGR only show up in 102

          Think 401 is for FULL COLOR LARGE > PRINTS & COPIES

          will check manual
          **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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          • wild140
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            • Feb 2017
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            #6
            Re: Canon Double count Ledger

            You are correct 12o never moves , I have a 2020 here to test that on, I can try 401 . The only issue I have with 102 is how do you determine which of those Large where color and which are black and white ?
            Thank You in advance for your assistance again

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            • teckat
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              Re: Canon Double count Ledger

              Originally posted by wild140
              You are correct 12o never moves , I have a 2020 here to test that on, I can try 401 . The only issue I have with 102 is how do you determine which of those Large where color and which are black and white ?
              Thank You in advance for your assistance again

              Have had many conversions with Canon over the years on these counters----and found that they know little when it comes to billing setups
              Found it best to keep counter billing contracts simple
              Confusing when it comes to Copies and Prints > Full Color > Single Color > Black Only > Large > Small

              000 to 099 Remote copy
              100 to 199 Total
              200 to 299 Copy
              300 to 399 Print
              400 to 499 Copy and print
              500 to 599 Scan
              600 to 699 Box
              700 to 799 Reception print
              800 to 899 Report print
              900 to 999 Transmission
              Meanings of symbols in tables
              • L: Large size (larger than B4 size)
              • S: Small size (smaller than B4 size)
              • S: Small size (smaller than B4 size)
              It can be changed by the service mode (COPIER > OPTION > USER > B4_L_CNT) so that
              the paper larger than B4 size can be counted as large size paper.
              • Copy: Local copy + remote copy
              • Copy A: Local copy + remote copy + box print
              • Print: PDL print + report print + box print
              • Print A: PDL print + report print
              • Scan: Black and white scan + color scan

              B4-L-CNT Count setting of B4 size
              Lv.1 Details= To set B4 count with software counter 1 to 8 as to whether B4 is counted as large size or small size. ■
              Selecting 1 counts B4 or larger size paper as large size while paper smaller than B4 size as small size.
              Use case Upon user’s request
              Adj/set/operate method
              1) Enter the setting value, and then press OK key.■
              2) Turn OFF/ON the main power switch.
              Display/adj/set range 0 to 1■
              0: Small size, 1: Large size
              Default value 0



              ================================================== =================================
              have a look
              here is a link for entire list of tables for all your Canon Supported Meter Counters------------

              http://printtracker.net/downloads/Print_Tracker_-_Supported_Canon_Meters.pdf
              Last edited by teckat; 04-12-2019, 06:00 PM.
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              • onlyinnewfoundland
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                100+ Posts
                • Apr 2013
                • 235

                #8
                Re: Canon Double count Ledger

                Currently dealing with this type of thing at work under new ownership...

                KM dealer took over our Canon dealer now they are confused over how billing works on Canon vs KM because the KM says "color" and "black" in plain writing whereas Canon use the number system.

                We are setting most of the new stuff up for double click 11x17....

                If I were to duplicate the numbers for billing I assume we are supposed to use 102 and 109....and just do a virtual meter in e-automate or whatever for the color which would be the difference.

                I assume there is a meter recording that number though??? Maybe 417 according to the printtracker link Teckat has posted above?

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