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  • Raoufselwaness
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    • Nov 2008
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    [Misc] Randomly black image iR7105 V2

    hi friends
    I have issue with ir7105 gives random black copy while working and if paper jam happens it starts working normally after releasing jammed paper .I have replaced the main charging unit from working m/c but this fault appears three or four time a day. i suspect the H. V. T. PCB ASSEMBLY but it takes three to four days to have new one any idea ?
    NOTE the M/C is working in perfect way between the faults
    attached a copy
    thanks in advance

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  • Phil B.
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    • Jul 2016
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    #2
    Re: Randomly black image iR7105 V2

    Originally posted by Raoufselwaness
    hi friends
    I have issue with ir7105 gives random black copy while working and if paper jam happens it starts working normally after releasing jammed paper .I have replaced the main charging unit from working m/c but this fault appears three or four time a day. i suspect the H. V. T. PCB ASSEMBLY but it takes three to four days to have new one any idea ? NOTE the M/C is working in perfect way between the faults attached a copy thanks in advance
    bias problems cause all black copy...
    have you:
    printed out the error logs?
    cleaned all contacts on drum/belt etc?
    are you using OEM toner/Drums?
    the example is a copy.... what do PRINTS look like?
    what is the life counts on Drum?
    other than changing corona WHAT have you done?
    what are the settings for the bias control items?
    I take you have a service manual?

    You MUST help us with INFO

    before we can help you with the problem

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    • Raoufselwaness
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      #3
      Re: Randomly black image iR7105 V2

      Originally posted by Phil B.
      bias problems cause all black copy...
      have you:
      printed out the error logs?
      cleaned all contacts on drum/belt etc?
      are you using OEM toner/Drums?
      the example is a copy.... what do PRINTS look like?
      what is the life counts on Drum?
      other than changing corona WHAT have you done?
      what are the settings for the bias control items?
      I take you have a service manual?

      You MUST help us with INFO

      before we can help you with the problem
      thanks for your prompt replay
      the sample is test #1 (print)> the fault happens during print and copy
      the toner is OEM
      drum life is 2.5 mil
      i have cleaned all charging corona and stretched new corona wire (by the book)
      all values in service mode copier>adjust according to the data on m/c door

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      • Canuck
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        • Nov 2007
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        #4
        Re: Randomly black image iR7105 V2

        Bad laser...common on these..I've seen them print black like that, mirror images. You can order the laser diode assembly

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        • Raoufselwaness
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          #5
          Re: Randomly black image iR7105 V2

          Originally posted by Canuck
          Bad laser...common on these..I've seen them print black like that, mirror images. You can order the laser diode assembly
          thanks canuck;
          but it not always black it my work all day fine and suddenly print this black copy with words appear like sample
          and some times it print faint copy and start to print fine again ??
          yesterday i checked the drum unit and DV tank assy for any short or leak it seams ok.
          cleaned potential sensor too
          iam waiting for laser unit to replace.
          thanks again

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          • zoraldinho
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            • Mar 2008
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            #6
            Re: Randomly black image iR7105 V2

            Turn potential control off,print test again end report back.
            Practice makes perfect
            If it ain't broke, don't fix it
            A picture is worth a thousand words
            If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself

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            • dan7777
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              • Dec 2012
              • 680

              #7
              Re: Randomly black image iR7105 V2

              Originally posted by Raoufselwaness
              thanks canuck;
              but it not always black it my work all day fine and suddenly print this black copy with words appear like sample
              and some times it print faint copy and start to print fine again ??
              yesterday i checked the drum unit and DV tank assy for any short or leak it seams ok.
              cleaned potential sensor too
              iam waiting for laser unit to replace.
              thanks again
              Don't forget the drum ground. I think it may go light when you loose ground. Dark could be HVT or maybe a cracked charge connecter. When you loose all charge it would be black. I am just throwing ideas out there. All mine were replaced years ago.

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              • Raoufselwaness
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                #8
                Re: Randomly black image iR7105 V2

                Originally posted by zoraldinho
                Turn potential control off,print test again end report back.
                thanks zoraldinho;
                i have already done that unfortunately the fault pops up !

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                • Canuck
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                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1713

                  #9
                  Re: Randomly black image iR7105 V2

                  If it did not charge, it would be all black with no image. Laser...I've replaced a few. There actually was a bulletin from Canon. Replace the laser diode assembly

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                  • Raoufselwaness
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                    • Nov 2008
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                    #10
                    Re: Randomly black image iR7105 V2

                    Hi all
                    I'm so sorry not to com back and tell the results
                    this is because its holy week ,Easter and spring festival in Egypt.
                    so; i have checked every comment from your replay and asked for support from a friend working in canon dealer "paid"
                    he redo every thing again and finally tell me that maybe the DC controller as he knew about this but did not face it before
                    he send me canon Canada technical publication (attached), and they said that the problem appears only when
                    copy/print from deck 1 cassette 3/4 only , and never for deck 2 because noise from deck 1 cassette 3/4 assy.
                    i instructed the customer to work only from deck 2 and it has been 3 weeks the problem never com back.
                    during this week i will have another DC controller hopefully be modified.
                    thanks for all of you
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                    • Raoufselwaness
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                      #11
                      Re: Randomly black image iR7105 V2

                      Hi all;
                      i have replaced the dc controller 10 days ago and every thing works fine,
                      copying printing from the four paper cassette are fine.
                      thanks for all of you

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