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  • repeatcopiers
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    • Sep 2008
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    C5030 copy quality

    I have a c5030 in the field that started having faded magenta on their copies/prints. We replaced the magenta drum unit, but after about 2 weeks it started again. The tech found that the magenta drum was holding onto the toner and not laying it all on the ITB, so he swapped out the drum and developer from a C5235, it ran about 30 great copies then started again. He inspected the transfer rollers inside the ITB and they seemed fine but he went ahead and swapped the cyan and magenta to see if that changed anything but it did not. I've attached a PG10 plus some images of the drum (which we replaced twice in the beginning thinking we had a defective drum).
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  • Andyboachie
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    • Jul 2013
    • 185

    #2
    Re: C5030 copy quality

    Originally posted by repeatcopiers
    I have a c5030 in the field that started having faded magenta on their copies/prints. We replaced the magenta drum unit, but after about 2 weeks it started again. The tech found that the magenta drum was holding onto the toner and not laying it all on the ITB, so he swapped out the drum and developer from a C5235, it ran about 30 great copies then started again. He inspected the transfer rollers inside the ITB and they seemed fine but he went ahead and swapped the cyan and magenta to see if that changed anything but it did not. I've attached a PG10 plus some images of the drum (which we replaced twice in the beginning thinking we had a defective drum).
    1. Stir Developer in service mode and see what you get: COPIER>FUNCTION>INSTALL>STIR (M)
    2. Replace the developer with a working one and compare

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    • repeatcopiers
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      #3
      Re: C5030 copy quality

      Originally posted by Andyboachie
      1. Stir Developer in service mode and see what you get: COPIER>FUNCTION>INSTALL>STIR (M)
      2. Replace the developer with a working one and compare
      Thanks, that information must have got lost in my long ramble. The customer has a C5235 in their office too, so we did take the drum and developer out of that machine and it gave the same result.

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      • wcanonw
        Trusted Tech
        • Aug 2014
        • 404

        #4
        Re: C5030 copy quality

        hello, wear is appreciated, replace drum and cleaning blade of the magenta imaging unit

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        • repeatcopiers
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          #5
          Re: C5030 copy quality

          Originally posted by wcanonw
          hello, wear is appreciated, replace drum and cleaning blade of the magenta imaging unit
          We have actually replaced the entire drum unit twice.

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          • wcanonw
            Trusted Tech
            • Aug 2014
            • 404

            #6
            Re: C5030 copy quality

            Originally posted by repeatcopiers
            We have actually replaced the entire drum unit twice.
            hello change original magenta drum unit and new original magenta development unit

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            • wcanonw
              Trusted Tech
              • Aug 2014
              • 404

              #7
              Re: C5030 copy quality

              Originally posted by repeatcopiers
              I have a c5030 in the field that started having faded magenta on their copies/prints. We replaced the magenta drum unit, but after about 2 weeks it started again. The tech found that the magenta drum was holding onto the toner and not laying it all on the ITB, so he swapped out the drum and developer from a C5235, it ran about 30 great copies then started again. He inspected the transfer rollers inside the ITB and they seemed fine but he went ahead and swapped the cyan and magenta to see if that changed anything but it did not. I've attached a PG10 plus some images of the drum (which we replaced twice in the beginning thinking we had a defective drum).
              seeing your photos you are working with compatible drums, I would recommend that you buy and install the original CANON spare parts and consumables, so that you have a good print quality and durability

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              • repeatcopiers
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                #8
                Re: C5030 copy quality

                Originally posted by wcanonw
                seeing your photos you are working with compatible drums, I would recommend that you buy and install the original CANON spare parts and consumables, so that you have a good print quality and durability
                I agree. This is a COD customer and they buy their toners and drums online and just pay us to diagnose and install. They do buy OEM toners but these drums are compatibles. They use these in both of their copiers (C5030 and C5235) without any issues in the past so it would be a hard sell to make her spend money on OEM drums right now. The drums are making great copies on their C5235, we are only having issues with the C5030.

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                • mga
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                  • Dec 2010
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                  #9
                  Re: C5030 copy quality

                  Originally posted by repeatcopiers
                  I have a c5030 in the field that started having faded magenta on their copies/prints. We replaced the magenta drum unit, but after about 2 weeks it started again. The tech found that the magenta drum was holding onto the toner and not laying it all on the ITB, so he swapped out the drum and developer from a C5235, it ran about 30 great copies then started again. He inspected the transfer rollers inside the ITB and they seemed fine but he went ahead and swapped the cyan and magenta to see if that changed anything but it did not. I've attached a PG10 plus some images of the drum (which we replaced twice in the beginning thinking we had a defective drum).
                  Drum and dev problems replace oem drum unit and dev unit if using cheap toner tell then to use oem on compatibles even katun can't get the magenta colour correct
                  Regards Mark

                  FOR TRADE AND END USER SERVICE CALLS PLEASE VISIT WEB SITE FOR CONTACT DETAILS. COVERING GREATER LONDON {UK} AND ALL SURROUNDING COUNTIES.

                  RICOH, CANON, KYOCERA, KONICA, SHARP, HP/SAMSUNG BROTHER, LEXMARK.

                  https://copierservices.simdif.com

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                  • repeatcopiers
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                    #10
                    Re: C5030 copy quality

                    Originally posted by mga
                    Drum and dev problems replace oem drum unit and dev unit if using cheap toner tell then to use oem on compatibles even katun can't get the magenta colour correct
                    I am in total agreement regarding OEM parts and supplies. But since we are swapping the drum and developer unit from the C5235 to the C5030 and getting the same result (C5235 continues to have great copies and the C5030 continues to have this issue) I feel like this is coming from somewhere else.

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                    • mga
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                      • Dec 2010
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                      #11
                      Re: C5030 copy quality

                      Originally posted by repeatcopiers
                      I am in total agreement regarding OEM parts and supplies. But since we are swapping the drum and developer unit from the C5235 to the C5030 and getting the same result (C5235 continues to have great copies and the C5030 continues to have this issue) I feel like this is coming from somewhere else.
                      If you use parts from another machine it doesn't set up automatically. The pictures show cleaning problem in the drum unit if it was clean I would have said remove laser and clean but pic's defo looks faulty drum / dev units
                      Regards Mark

                      FOR TRADE AND END USER SERVICE CALLS PLEASE VISIT WEB SITE FOR CONTACT DETAILS. COVERING GREATER LONDON {UK} AND ALL SURROUNDING COUNTIES.

                      RICOH, CANON, KYOCERA, KONICA, SHARP, HP/SAMSUNG BROTHER, LEXMARK.

                      https://copierservices.simdif.com

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                      • repeatcopiers
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                        #12
                        Re: C5030 copy quality

                        Originally posted by mga
                        If you use parts from another machine it doesn't set up automatically. The pictures show cleaning problem in the drum unit if it was clean I would have said remove laser and clean but pic's defo looks faulty drum / dev units
                        Right, when we took a drum and developer out of the other working copier, we got about 10 or 15 decent copies before this issue started showing itself again. Plus we wiped off the excess toner on the drum and put it and the developer in the other copier and it did not present itself at all. The laser is my next guess.

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                        • repeatcopiers
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                          #13
                          Re: C5030 copy quality UPDATE

                          Originally posted by repeatcopiers
                          I have a c5030 in the field that started having faded magenta on their copies/prints. We replaced the magenta drum unit, but after about 2 weeks it started again. The tech found that the magenta drum was holding onto the toner and not laying it all on the ITB, so he swapped out the drum and developer from a C5235, it ran about 30 great copies then started again. He inspected the transfer rollers inside the ITB and they seemed fine but he went ahead and swapped the cyan and magenta to see if that changed anything but it did not. I've attached a PG10 plus some images of the drum (which we replaced twice in the beginning thinking we had a defective drum).
                          It is very hard to see, but we just noticed the Yellow is doing the same thing, not easy to see on the PG10 but definitely there.

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                          • roho
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                            • Mar 2009
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                            #14
                            Re: C5030 copy quality

                            If it is on the drum and not on the ITB, I would not bother with any laser. If the laser failed, you would not have a image written on the drum. You may be having issues with primary transfer, either through the ITB or in machine contact.

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                            • wcanonw
                              Trusted Tech
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 404

                              #15
                              Re: C5030 copy quality UPDATE

                              Originally posted by repeatcopiers
                              It is very hard to see, but we just noticed the Yellow is doing the same thing, not easy to see on the PG10 but definitely there.
                              hello if you have changed the magenta development unit and magenta drum unit.
                              What adjustments did you make in the service mode? (copier-function-install-iniset4) and adjust gradation full

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