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  • pLatik
    Trusted Tech
    • Apr 2009
    • 169

    c2220i jam

  • Phil B.
    Field Supervisor

    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2016
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    #2
    Re: c2220i jam

    look at the print properties for the files they are printing, more than likely the file doesn't have the same trap designated for A3 that the machine does.

    are you a trained tech?

    can't tell by your profile... in fact really can't tell anything from your sparse profile info.

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    • pLatik
      Trusted Tech
      • Apr 2009
      • 169

      #3
      Re: c2220i jam

      Yes, i'm a trained Canon tech. The prints i made is in a4. I have a printer in the Shop and myself test some prints and this issue happen randomly when prints are made in a4 size. Even if I choose the 1st drawer, the print pick up the a3 in the second drawer. All the 5 printers have this issue

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      • tsbservice
        Field tech

        Site Contributor
        5,000+ Posts
        • May 2007
        • 7635

        #4
        Re: c2220i jam

        Print or copy?
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        • pLatik
          Trusted Tech
          • Apr 2009
          • 169

          #5
          Re: c2220i jam

          Originally posted by tsbservice
          Print or copy?
          Print, only

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          • marlo
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2021
            • 5

            #6

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            • Syarif98
              Technician
              • Mar 2021
              • 20

              #7
              Re: c2220i jam

              Try looking at pickup unit area. And clean the pickup unit. You need to open up the cover and take the whole unit to clean it. I have a customer whose have dirty pickup unit tray 1. Because of it cant use tray 1. And falsely detecting paper. There are sensor stick at there. So i clean it and can use tray 1 again. Besides that try this trick. Pull a3 tray and only a4 tray inserted. This way when your customers print machine will feed only a4 tray. When customers want to print a3, pull a4 tray and insert a3 tray. Another is put only a3 paper in tray 1&2, then printing a4 only on bypass area. Set paper setting and paper output in printer properties at printer & scanner as a3 to a3. And chose bypass for only a4, still needed the set paper settings too. Let the customer run the macine in this configuration a week or so. If a3 still jam after specifically set the setting then the machine might have another problem.

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              • pLatik
                Trusted Tech
                • Apr 2009
                • 169

                #8
                Re: c2220i jam

                Originally posted by Syarif98
                Try looking at pickup unit area. And clean the pickup unit. You need to open up the cover and take the whole unit to clean it. I have a customer whose have dirty pickup unit tray 1. Because of it cant use tray 1. And falsely detecting paper. There are sensor stick at there. So i clean it and can use tray 1 again. Besides that try this trick. Pull a3 tray and only a4 tray inserted. This way when your customers print machine will feed only a4 tray. When customers want to print a3, pull a4 tray and insert a3 tray. Another is put only a3 paper in tray 1&2, then printing a4 only on bypass area. Set paper setting and paper output in printer properties at printer & scanner as a3 to a3. And chose bypass for only a4, still needed the set paper settings too. Let the customer run the macine in this configuration a week or so. If a3 still jam after specifically set the setting then the machine might have another problem.

                Drawer 2 has no problem. if a4 sheets are inserted, or even a3 print is ordered, the machine prints correctly. what is happening is that if I send a4 prints, even though I specify that I want it to be printed in drawer 1, the machines will randomly fetch paper from drawer 2 which is loaded with a3 sheets and jams. as I said, I have already tried to remove the automatic paper changeover (in case of lack of paper in the 1 drawer, it will not get paper from the other paper drawer) and even so, from time to time it will get the a3 paper from the second drawer. I installed the same printer driver (pcl, ufr2 and postscript), not the generic one and the problem continues to persist. what customers have been doing is keeping drawer 2 open and when they want to print in a3 they close it, but they don't want to continue with this solution, because it forces them to get up every time they need to print in a3. I'm out of ideas, because it seems to me that the problem is not mechanical, since I have 5 machines with the same problem in all those using the a3 and as my colleague Marlo says he also has the same problem in 3 machines and still nothing has been detected. I've been reading all service bulletins for this model and none of them mention this problem.

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                • fchu5959
                  Field Engineer

                  100+ Posts
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 100

                  #9
                  Re: c2220i jam

                  Originally posted by pLatik
                  Drawer 2 has no problem. if a4 sheets are inserted, or even a3 print is ordered, the machine prints correctly. what is happening is that if I send a4 prints, even though I specify that I want it to be printed in drawer 1, the machines will randomly fetch paper from drawer 2 which is loaded with a3 sheets and jams. as I said, I have already tried to remove the automatic paper changeover (in case of lack of paper in the 1 drawer, it will not get paper from the other paper drawer) and even so, from time to time it will get the a3 paper from the second drawer. I installed the same printer driver (pcl, ufr2 and postscript), not the generic one and the problem continues to persist. what customers have been doing is keeping drawer 2 open and when they want to print in a3 they close it, but they don't want to continue with this solution, because it forces them to get up every time they need to print in a3. I'm out of ideas, because it seems to me that the problem is not mechanical, since I have 5 machines with the same problem in all those using the a3 and as my colleague Marlo says he also has the same problem in 3 machines and still nothing has been detected. I've been reading all service bulletins for this model and none of them mention this problem.
                  On these machines,the upper paper pick up assembly for drawer 1 is quite different from the lower pick up assy for drawer 2.For this issue,remove the lower pick up assy and check for sticky solenoid SL5;This issue usually happens with machine of 4-5 years old working in a non air-conditioned environment.

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                  • pLatik
                    Trusted Tech
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 169

                    #10
                    Re: c2220i jam

                    Originally posted by fchu5959
                    On these machines,the upper paper pick up assembly for drawer 1 is quite different from the lower pick up assy for drawer 2.For this issue,remove the lower pick up assy and check for sticky solenoid SL5;This issue usually happens with machine of 4-5 years old working in a non air-conditioned environment.
                    I Will trie your suggestion. I remove the pick up assy, from the second drawer and post results later. I was convict that the problem are from software, but now i m going to the hardware side. Thanks

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                    • marlo
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2021
                      • 5

                      #11

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                      • marlo
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2021
                        • 5

                        #12

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                        • marlo
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2021
                          • 5

                          #13
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                          • Canuck
                            Tech Specialist

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 1713

                            #14
                            Re: c2220i jam

                            If it is doing it only on printing, there is nothing mechanically wrong in the machine. What jam code? What does it say as the paper source for the Jam? Paper size indicated for the Jam? This sounds more like an application related issue..what kind of documents? If you create documents in Word and Excel, they are at the top of the food chain in relation to the driver settings. On the print jobs that jam, what kind? PDF,Word,xls,etc? If I create a Word document, for example, that says I want to print Monarch envelopes from bypass tray and I load bypass with Com 10, it will jam every print. I have a few customers that do this all the time. If it copies without issues, update the driver and firmware on the machine and go from there. I would look at what they are printing when it jams

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                            • tsbservice
                              Field tech

                              Site Contributor
                              5,000+ Posts
                              • May 2007
                              • 7635

                              #15
                              Re: c2220i jam

                              Originally posted by Canuck
                              If it is doing it only on printing, there is nothing mechanically wrong in the machine. What jam code? What does it say as the paper source for the Jam? Paper size indicated for the Jam? This sounds more like an application related issue..what kind of documents? If you create documents in Word and Excel, they are at the top of the food chain in relation to the driver settings. On the print jobs that jam, what kind? PDF,Word,xls,etc? If I create a Word document, for example, that says I want to print Monarch envelopes from bypass tray and I load bypass with Com 10, it will jam every print. I have a few customers that do this all the time. If it copies without issues, update the driver and firmware on the machine and go from there. I would look at what they are printing when it jams
                              Exactly my thoughts.
                              A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                              Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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