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  • ricohtoshiba
    Technician
    • Mar 2010
    • 10

    #1

    clc 1110 turns off a few seconds after i turn it on

    my canon cl1110 machine turns off just a few seconds after i turn it on.

    i turn the main power toggle switch on , seconds later the main power toggle switch just turns off by its self it seems.

    please help
  • zoraldinho
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    • Mar 2008
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    #2
    [QUOTE=ricohtoshiba;166880]my canon cl1110 machine turns off just a few seconds after i turn it on.

    i turn the main power toggle switch on , seconds later the main power toggle switch just turns off by its self it seems.

    please help[/QUOTE


    Check in service mode COPIER/ERROR and tell as wich error do you have.
    If it ain't broke, don't fix it
    A picture is worth a thousand words

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    • teckat
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      • Jan 2010
      • 16083

      #3
      Originally posted by ricohtoshiba
      my canon cl1110 machine turns off just a few seconds after i turn it on.

      i turn the main power toggle switch on , seconds later the main power toggle switch just turns off by its self it seems.

      please help
      Canon copiers are designed to turn off the power switch under two conditions, barring loss of 24vdc or a faulty power switch. They will turn off if a fault is seen in the fixing assembly or the exposure lamp circuit.

      Areas to check are the door switches, the transfer arm engage switch, fixing thermistors, thermal switch's, fixing lamps, scan lamp.

      When checking these components use a multi-meter to check continuity of the circuits and also check for continuity to frame ground. If the circuit is open replace the faulty component, if the circuit shows a short to frame ground then check the wiring of the circuit for insulation being worn away and coming in contact with the frame.

      After doing the above check, if the circuits check good the next area to check would be the connectors on the back wall of the machine for the fixing assembly and the connector at the lamp regulator. If any cracks or spread pins are observed replace the connector.

      turn off/pull out fuser/=keep out/turn on/go in service mode/ check error codes
      u also nee to check wall voltage/ below is ex.for 120v check








      How is ground to neutral checked on a 120 VAC wall outlet?

      two examples of where to place your meter leads to measure ground to neutral on 120VAC wall outlets.

      Through experience it has been determined that less than .5 volt AC should be measured between ground and neutral. If absolute zero is measured then it may be an indication that the ground is not connected or that some other problem may exist within the outlet.
      Note: This is not a machine or a Canon specification.
      Also note: Outlet readings utilizing a "hand held" circuit meter are only a "snapshot" of the voltage at the time of the reading. Fluctuations, spikes, surges and drops in voltage sometimes require a long term reading such as can be achieved with a line monitor.









      CLC1100 CLC1120 CLC1140 CLC1150 CLC1180 CLC-1100 CLC-1120 CLC-1140 CLC-1150 CLC-1180 CLC 1100 CLC 1120 CLC 1140 CLC 1150 CLC 1180 CLC1100/1120/1140/1150/1180 Troubleshooting the DC-fuse PCB or a missing voltage in the machine
      How to troubleshoot the DC-fuse PCB.

      When an over current or a short to ground occurs in the machine such as a motor binding or a wire shorted to the frame of the machine a fuse on the DC-fuse PCB should open to prevent damage to the machine. The DC-fuse PCB is located on the left hand side of the machine below the paper exit as illustrated below.

      The circuit diagram for the dc power distribution is found on page A6 of the service manual, on page A9 of the service hand book, page 103 of the technical reference guide and is attached to this article for your reference. The DC-fuse PCB has 3 glass 5amp fuses and 18 pico fuse's from 3 to 7 amps. The glass fuse's can be checked by pulling them from their holders and checking the resistance across them, they should read 0 ohms when tested with a meter. The pico fuse's are soldered into the board and would be difficult to check by resistance while still on the board, it is best to check the pico fuses by checking the output voltages from the connectors on the fuse PCB. On page 103 of the technical reference guide is a table of the fuse, the voltage across the fuse and the destination of the voltage in the machine, please reference the attachment to this article.
      The placement of the connectors on the DC-fuse PCB can be seen in file dcfusepcb2001.pdf and a picture of the DC-fuse PCB is shown in attachment DCfuse4. As the board sits in the machine it is [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]difficult[/COLOR] to see the actual J connector numbers. Following are the pin configuration of J907-909-908-929-931-933-934-935-938-939 from left to right, for J906-910-932 it is from top to bottom, for J936-930 it is from bottom to top for J905 it is starting at the upper right (pin1) upper left (pin 3) lower right (pin 2) lower left (pin 4) For J929 it is starting at lower right (pin 1) middle lower (pin 2) lower left (pin 3) upper right (pin 4) upper middle (pin 5) upper left (pin 6) J937 starting at the lower right (pin 1) lower left (pin 2) upper right (pin 3) upper left (pin 4).
      The connector and the pin number for the fuse output is below.

      FU-901 J907-4 5vdc
      FU-903 J908-6 5vdc
      FU-904 J909-5 5vdc
      FU-905 J909-6 5vdc
      FU-906 J910-2 5vdc
      FU-921 J931-4 24vdc
      FU-922 J931-5 24vdc
      FU-923 J931-6 24vdc
      FU-924 J932-5 24vdc
      FU-925 J932-6 24vdc
      FU-931 J933-5 24vdc
      FU-932 J935-3 24vdc
      FU-933 J935-4 24vdc
      FU-934 J934-6 24vdc
      FU-935 J934-8 24vdc
      FU-936 J936-5 24vdc
      FU-937 J936-6 24vdc
      FU-938 J936-7 24vdc
      FU-939 J936-8 24vdc
      FU-940 J937-4 38vdc
      FU-941 J938-2 38vdc
      The input voltages from the DC power supply can be checked at the following connectors.
      5 volts DC at J905 pins 1&2
      24 volts DC at J929 pin 1, J930 pin1
      38 volts DC at J937 pin 3
      **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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      • ricohtoshiba
        Technician
        • Mar 2010
        • 10

        #4
        e-803 is the error code

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        • ricohtoshiba
          Technician
          • Mar 2010
          • 10

          #5
          thanks for the info,, i will check those scenarios,, power shortages, fuser, door switches.

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          • zoraldinho
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            Site Contributor
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            • Mar 2008
            • 5000

            #6
            Originally posted by ricohtoshiba
            thanks for the info,, i will check those scenarios,, power shortages, fuser, door switches.



            41 E803
            Cause
            DC driver PCB,
            CPU PCB
            Transfer unit lever
            switch (SW3),
            Left front cover
            switch (SW4),
            Delivery cover
            switch (SW5)
            DC fuse PCB
            DC power cut
            relay (RL3)
            DC power supply
            PCB
            Action
            Replace the DC driver
            PCB or the CPU PCB.
            (After replacement,
            execute work under II.
            H. 10. or II. H. 1.)
            Close the covers and
            levers properly. Then,
            check the switches; if
            faulty, replace them.
            Replace the DC fuse
            PCB.
            Check the wiring
            between the DC power
            supply PCB and the DC
            If it ain't broke, don't fix it
            A picture is worth a thousand words

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            • teckat
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              • Jan 2010
              • 16083

              #7
              Originally posted by ricohtoshiba
              e-803 is the error code

              important/ what is the sub-code on E803
              /
              ALSO WHAT ARE THE LAST FIVE JAM CODES/w sub codes also

              if u have a blown fuse/need to find the cause/ like a pinched wire !!
              **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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              • mrfixit51
                Lead Service Technician

                1,000+ Posts
                • Oct 2008
                • 1975

                #8
                Might be a little clearer...

                Originally posted by ricohtoshiba
                e-803 is the error code
                This might be clearer...
                Attached Files
                "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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                • SCREWTAPE
                  East Coast Imaging

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                  2,500+ Posts
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3396

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ricohtoshiba
                  my canon cl1110 machine turns off just a few seconds after i turn it on.

                  i turn the main power toggle switch on , seconds later the main power toggle switch just turns off by its self it seems.

                  please help
                  Have you inspected the fixing assy, thermo switch, lamps.

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                  • zoraldinho
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                    • Mar 2008
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                    #10
                    Thanks mrfixit51.My bad.
                    If it ain't broke, don't fix it
                    A picture is worth a thousand words

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                    • Canuck
                      Tech Specialist

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 1713

                      #11
                      Probably exposure lamp. On older NP Canons(like 6030) if you would manually hold the switch to stop it from turning off it would eventually display an error...usually E-803 and it was a blown exposure lamp

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                      • teckat
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                        • Jan 2010
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Canuck
                        Probably exposure lamp. On older NP Canons(like 6030) if you would manually hold the switch to stop it from turning off it would eventually display an error...usually E-803 and it was a blown exposure lamp

                        that is a no no, especially on the CLC's- once had a tech tape down the main switch on a NP500/under frustration, he left the room for a moment/
                        don't have to tell u what happened, u just might guess ??

                        the switch melted & almost caused a fire
                        .
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                        • Canuck
                          Tech Specialist

                          1,000+ Posts
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 1713

                          #13
                          On NP6030 Canon INSTRUCTS you to hold the switch...what idiot would tape the switch down...its for troubleshooting,not a workaround

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                          • SCREWTAPE
                            East Coast Imaging

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                            • Jan 2009
                            • 3396

                            #14
                            Can't forget the drum heater. It can also cause power issues.

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                            • mrfixit51
                              Lead Service Technician

                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 1975

                              #15
                              Originally posted by zoraldinho
                              Thanks mrfixit51.My bad.
                              No Problem,,, we are all here to assist, I appreciate your efforts...
                              "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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