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  • teckat
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    #16
    Originally posted by aab1
    Well so far I've done 250 000 prints on this inkjet and it cost me less than $1000 of ink, I've also only replaced the printheads about 4 -5 times.


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    • aab1
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      • Oct 2010
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      #17
      You're just jealous that laser printers can't get anywhere near as low a cost per page than inkjets.

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      • mrwho
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        #18
        Originally posted by aab1
        Well so far I've done 250 000 prints on this inkjet and it cost me less than $1000 of ink, I've also only replaced the printheads about 4 -5 times.
        Well, you still failed to mention what is the make and model of your inkjet (probably on another thread, but I'm not wasting time skimming through all of your posts), although you never tire of mentioning those 250K/1K/5x values.

        Although I'm not specifically saying that what your're stating is false - since, as I said before, I can't disprove your claims - I'm getting the impression that you're just a troll that came in here just looking for confusion:

        - You keep repeating your claims without adding any facts to them (how about the make/model of your machine? Or links to any online vendor with the prices you mentioned?)

        - You keep opening up posts asking for help but they ultimately lead up to how about "inkjets are so much better than laser machines"

        So, I welcome you aboard our train! As someone else can explain to you, I just love a good flamewar! And since you seem to be a good troll, excuse me while I grab my popcorn bucket!

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        • aab1
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          • Oct 2010
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          #19
          I have the HP Officejet Pro L7780, with genuine cartridges the cost per page is half that of laser printers of similar price.

          But you can buy ink by the liter for $50 a liter, I just bought small microtube and ran it from the 1 liter bottles through holes I drilled in the caps and ran them to the refill port on the cartridges and sealed them with hot glue so I don't have to refill the cartridges every 2500 prints. It was a 30 minute modification that's very easy to do.

          Here are pictures of my modification:





          Here's a video of it printing:

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          • mrwho
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            #20
            Now that's nice and it proves your point. I just ask why didn't you explain that right away instead of acting like a troll?
            ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
            Mascan42

            'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

            Ibid

            I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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            • Eric1968
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              #21
              Originally posted by aab1
              Well from the prints I've seen no laser printer comes close to the print quality of inkjets. Even $100 HP inkjets beat the print quality of $10 000 HP laserjets. And comparing my HP business inkjet to the Canon laser is also no comparison, the HP makes far superior print quality (after all it's 4800 DPI vs 600). Plus many inkjets use light cyan and light magenta for perfect photo quality, as far as I know, no laser printer uses light cyan and light magenta.
              When you only print photo's on, let's say postcard size, (that's what most people print with this machines) you won't see any difference between 300 dpi and 4800 dpi!

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              • aab1
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                • Oct 2010
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                #22
                Originally posted by Eric1968
                When you only print photo's on, let's say postcard size, (that's what most people print with this machines) you won't see any difference between 300 dpi and 4800 dpi!
                That makes no sense, DPI has nothing to do with image size, 300 dpi at 4x6 inches or 300 dpi at 8x10 inches is still 300 dots per inch.

                The dots from my laser printer are much bigger and visible than the dots on my inkjet, and photo quality inkjets that use 6 color inks make completely invisible dots.

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                • JustManuals
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by aab1
                  That makes no sense, DPI has nothing to do with image size, 300 dpi at 4x6 inches or 300 dpi at 8x10 inches is still 300 dots per inch.

                  The dots from my laser printer are much bigger and visible than the dots on my inkjet, and photo quality inkjets that use 6 color inks make completely invisible dots.
                  You make no sense. Why don't you go over to Printer Repair Forum - fixyourownprinter.com their more your speed. You can argue with moe over there.

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                  • SCREWTAPE
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                    #24
                    Paul,

                    This guy is a joke.

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                    • aab1
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                      • Oct 2010
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by manuals4you
                      You make no sense. Why don't you go over to Printer Repair Forum - fixyourownprinter.com their more your speed. You can argue with moe over there.
                      You don't even have basic knowledge of what dpi means and I make no sense?

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                      • teckat
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by aab1
                        You don't even have basic knowledge of what dpi means and I make no sense?

                        DPI has NOTHING to do with digital image quality!.

                        Scanning is the process of converting paper to digital and in this process DPI is used to adjust the amount of detail of the scan. The DPI setting of the scanner relates to the final pixel size of the scanned image. If you put a 5" x 7" photo on the scanner and scan it at 300 dpi, the resulting digital image will be 1500 x 2100 pixels in size (5" x 300 = 1500 and 7" x 300 = 2100). In this case, DPI does relate to quality, since the higher the scanner DPI setting the more information is being collected. Keep in mind though the 200 ppi = photo quality concept, a minimum of 200 dpi should be used in scanning. Best results for paper photos are generally achieved within a range of 300 dpi (sufficient for most photos) to 600 dpi (if you want to enlarge the image).


                        DPI is a measure of how a image is printed to a medium such as paper (or conversely, scanned from paper). Many software programs call DPI a measure of "resolution" which leads to more confusion since it is the resolution of the printed output, not anything to do with the "resolution" of the digital image. In fact the software programs that use this setting are really just doing so because they lack WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) output. If you do use WYSIWYG software such as most word processing, desk top publishing, photo printing programs or graphics programs such as Adobe Illustrator or Corel Draw, then DPI is really a meaningless figure - the quality of output will be determined by the pixel size of the original image, the paper dimensions you have chosen to print the image (i.e. 4" x 6") and the quality of the printer.
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                        • mrwho
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by aab1
                          That makes no sense, DPI has nothing to do with image size
                          It all depends on whether you're talking about scanning or printing. When scanning - or when talking about digital images - DPI has everything to do with image size.
                          ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                          Mascan42

                          'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                          Ibid

                          I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                          • Stirton.M
                            All things Konica Minolta

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by aab1
                            You don't even have basic knowledge of what dpi means and I make no sense?
                            I could easily say that lack of knowledge about DPI applies to you, as is evident in most of your posts.
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                            • Stirton.M
                              All things Konica Minolta

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Ducttape n Glue
                              I'm pretty sure HP stopped using Canon laser tech in the late 90's and went to another company for laser development, can't remember their name right now.
                              On some models, that would be KM for the print head technology. Not sure about the image unit or toner...or the rest for that matter.
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                              • badboys
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                                • Oct 2010
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                                #30
                                That modification thing is not safe. It will only cause damage to the print head giving bad print quality. You're warranty will be void too.

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