Canon IR105+ showing "Finisher can not be used"

[tinnyjay]

Hello!

My IR105+ is just showing on monitor :"Finisher can not be used".
There is no error code,copier is working,but finisher its not alive.
No moving trays,not showing in Service Mode.
Can you help me please?

[zoraldinho]

Finisher is in limited function mode.In additional function mode turn application to off.

[blazebusiness]

Hello!

My IR105+ is just showing on monitor :"Finisher can not be used".
There is no error code,copier is working,but finisher its not alive.
No moving trays,not showing in Service Mode.
Can you help me please?

Take the finisher out of limited functions mode as zoraldinho said....if the finisher has problems you will get an error that will need diagnosis ......if the sorter just had a one time error or a customer interfered with tray movement or something .....the finisher should reset & be usable.

[SCREWTAPE]

Finisher is in limited function mode.In additional function mode turn application to off.

You can't turn it off. You must rectified the problem first.

@ Tinny.
How does your error history look. Error codes???

Three things that could play role here.

Switching Regulator- FH3-2631-040

Fuse pcb- FG3-1826-000

Finisher controller- FG3-1875-060


Check your error history log..

[tinnyjay]

You can't turn it off. You must rectified the problem first.

@ Tinny.
How does your error history look. Error codes???

Three things that could play role here.

Switching Regulator- FH3-2631-040

Fuse pcb- FG3-1826-000

Finisher controller- FG3-1875-060


Check your error history log..

No error code SCREWTAPE about finisher.In error history just E-00020-000 and E-00020-010(Toner Motor was dirty)
I just have cleared Errors as normally.

I have just tested boards of finisher with a Multimeter and every cell of them looks to be ok.
But...after turn the copier on,there is no led on,on the finisher boards.

[SCREWTAPE]

The finisher accessory power supply PCB is faulty. Switching Regulator- FH3-2631-040

[tinnyjay]

The finisher accessory power supply PCB is faulty. Switching Regulator- FH3-2631-040

You think i must change this?
Please can you tell me K3N/4N finisher with which one FINISHER has a Switching Regulator compatible?

[SCREWTAPE]

You think i must change this?
Please can you tell me K3N/4N finisher with which one FINISHER has a Switching Regulator compatible?

I'm afraid that's the only one.

The only models I know are K1/K2/K3

Did you check the plug.

[nick55]

my experience reminds me that if finisher is connected and its says "finisher cannot be used" I usually checked the connection and communication between copier and finisher. To quickly determine if the two are communicating is to have the finisher do the stapling and if it doesn't allow you to do that, then u have a communication problem bet. copier and finisher. the easiest solution i found is to check all the plugs especially the communication cable from finisher to copier. open the connector and check the connection. keep us posted for more hint

[tinnyjay]

Screwtape is right.Seems to be a problem with a RL which is here :
JW1FSN-DC24V Panasonic Electric Works General Purpose / Industrial Relays
This RL when i plug in finisher wire,makes a rumor like "crack" and nothing else happens.
No leds on,on finisher DC Controller,no fan on,nothing on.

[Van Steal]

Take the finisher out of limited functions mode as zoraldinho said....if the finisher has problems you will get an error that will need diagnosis ......if the sorter just had a one time error or a customer interfered with tray movement or something .....the finisher should reset & be usable.

As blazebusiness and zoraldindo said turn limited funtions off if there is a fault it will turn up again next time you used stapler etc. then work out fault.

[SCREWTAPE]

As blaze business and zoraldindo said turn limited functions off if there is a fault it will turn up again next time you used stapler etc. then work out fault.

These machines don't work that way. There is no switch for functions limited mode.
The problem must be rectified.

[Van Steal]

These machines don't work that way. There is no switch for functions limited mode.
The problem must be rectified.

Ah sorry, used to working on clc's

[SCREWTAPE]

Ah sorry, used to working on clc's

No need to apologize We all learn something new everyday.

[tinnyjay]

No need to apologize We all learn something new everyday.

Screwtape please tell me something.
How is possible finisher dont work and there is not any error code showed on the screen?
Just to learn something more.