Digital Photocopiers Loaded With Secrets

[zoraldinho]

Is anyone try this.True or false????

[teckat]

Is anyone try this.True or false????

U Bet your Butt it Works/ Already tried this in Our Office

[zoraldinho]

Do you use standard recovery software or something special?

[teckat]

Do you use standard recovery software or something special?

Think they used something called SafeBack

Take your pick
Forensic Computing Ltd. Free Computer Forensic Software downloads and Secuirty Tools

[mrfixit51]

I have never been able to retrieve anything, have tried many times over the years...

[zoraldinho]

I'm gona try and report.

[Tricky]

I have never been able to retrieve anything, have tried many times over the years...

As soon as this 'story' hit the news I have been trying and have had several goes with Canon hard disks with no luck.

But the whole story is about Toshiba copiers and if you pause the film at 2.15 you get a glimpse at the 'forensic software' they use. This looks like Ubuntu Linux to me and if Toshiba were lazy enough to use a standard Linux file system in their copiers it would be just plug and play as the video suggests.

[teckat]

Canon_Hard_Drive_Security_QA.pdf


Canon:
Questions and Answers for Customer Inquiries regarding Hard Disk Drive Security
imageRUNNER, imageRUNNER ADVANCE & imagePRESS Bulletin
Q1.Q2. Q3. What is the process with hard drives once the machines are returned?
Canon Financial Services and Canon Business Solutions have recently taken action whereby the majority of machines received in return will undergo a hard disk overwrite using the standard Hard Disk Format feature supported by the device. Please note, while Canon has recently begun taking steps to conduct (or arrange for) this overwrite prior to the resale of returned equipment, this is not a substitute for a customer taking the necessary steps to ensure their own data protection prior to returning a machine to Canon or another entity.
Depending upon the method the customer used to acquire Canon technology, Canon may not be capable of receiving all Canon devices in return. Canon strongly recommends that customers utilize the standard or optional hard disk security measures available for Canon imageRUNNER and imagePRESS devices.

Q4.Q5. What do you do with the data once the machines are returned?
Please see the response to Question 2 above.

Q6. How does Canon handle the wipes?
Please see the response to Question 2 above.

Q7.Q8. Q9. Do your products come standard with software that automatically sanitizes the hard drive?
Yes, Canon offers many services and products to assist a customer with protecting their sensitive information. As a standard feature in our imageRUNNER, imageRUNNER ADVANCE and imagePRESS machines, is a Hard Disk Drive Formatting function that can be initiated by the customer to perform a one pass overwrite of all customer data on the hard disk drive. When invoking this feature, customers should be aware that all data, including customer address books and documents stored in device mailboxes will be overwritten. As a result, customers should ensure that they have appropriately backed up required data or invoke the hard disk drive format feature only in cases where the device is being returned or maintenance of device data is not required.

Q10. Q11.Canon U.S.A., Inc..

[bojans]

When I was at service training for Toshiba, they've told us that there were very good encryption at Toshiba models. Almost impossible to break in! I took it for granted, never tried to see if I could read the data.. But seems it's as easy as browsing folder.

[teckat]

As soon as this 'story' hit the news I have been trying and have had several goes with Canon hard disks with no luck.

But the whole story is about Toshiba copiers and if you pause the film at 2.15 you get a glimpse at the 'forensic software' they use. This looks like Ubuntu Linux to me and if Toshiba were lazy enough to use a standard Linux file system in their copiers it would be just plug and play as the video suggests.

ALL Canon HDD's can be cracked/
I spent time in Canon Engineering and have seen it done

If u believe the following article > u must believe in tooth fairy's
All Canon imageRUNNER devices equipped with HDD have standard features in place to protect the information on their internal hard drive image servers and prevent the misuse or theft of the stored data. The image data from routine job processing during copying, printing, scanning and faxing is temporarily written to the HDD in a proprietary Canon file format. This file format is not compatible with file systems commonly used and not useful outside of the imageRUNNER device. The HDD directory information is also stored on a separate system board, making file reconstruction infeasible in the event the HDD was removed. Furthermore, all temporary and permanent data written to the hard drive is written in random, non-contiguous locations on the hard disk drive. The compressed data can, in turn, only be read by an imageRUNNER device using the proprietary format, which is integral to the operating system of the device, making the stored data highly secure.

[Tricky]

Took my personal laptop which is running Ubuntu Linux to the workshop today.

During lunch I took the hard drive out of a Toshiba 281c and plugged it into the laptop via a usb caddy, a few seconds later this lot appeared on my desktop

Screenshot1.jpg

The one in a red box is the laptop but all the rest are from the Toshiba drive...didnt have a lot of time so may investigate later.

[teckat]

WOW1.JPG

[Mr Spock]

Toshiba does have great encryption provided two things are done. The first is the customer buys either the data overwrite kit or the scrambler board. the second is that these are setup and USED. Otherwise the scan file (//copier/file_scans) is wide open and the data can be retrieved. And this is without any special recovery software.