[Jamming] IR8500 Jam Code : 0109 [FFff]

[mezerwi]

Hi,

IR8500 recently jam during long working hour. So, during the jam, i check up the jam code and its show jam code : 0109 which mean delay jam @ pre-registration sensor.

Image of the recovered paper
IMG-20110524-00026 (Small).jpg

What should I do next?

Thanks

[Canuck]

Make sure that the bearings haven't fallen out on the ends of the foam covered pre-reg roll. I've seen them disintegrate. Check that the pre-reg sensor is working in service I/O mode. If all ok check the connectors for the vertical clutch assembly. The inside silver roll is driven by the clutch in the vertical assembly

[ADE RCDS]

From image looks like jamming under drum, do as previous post first, Does it jam every time? Has m/c got high volume? if so check drum drive gear in rear of m/c, behind hvt and silver disc a double gear breaks, easy to check

[mezerwi]

Make sure that the bearings haven't fallen out on the ends of the foam covered pre-reg roll. I've seen them disintegrate. Check that the pre-reg sensor is working in service I/O mode. If all ok check the connectors for the vertical clutch assembly. The inside silver roll is driven by the clutch in the vertical assembly

Which one is the pre-reg sensor?

[Brian8506]

Judging by that question and your logo, I'm assuming you're an end user. Maybe you should call a tech.

[mrfixit51]

There is also the registration roller brake. Over time the roller does not turn very easily, and a dirty/worn registration clutch can then start to slip, causing late timing issues. This is prone to happen on older equipment. Remove, clean, lube with light oil, the green plastic brake shoes...

[Canuck]

0109 is late getting to pre-registration sensor. The posted image has nothing to do with the jam. The pre-reg sensor is at the very top of the vertical path. Before registration and imaging.

[CT Copier Repair]

Call a tech
or buy a manual and read it
the answer lies within
seek the sun grasshopper

or pay to have it fixed

[mrfixit51]

The pre-reg sensor is at the very top of the vertical path. Before registration and imaging.

I am aware of that, what caught my eye was the statement of long usage of the machine, and the stalled image provided. These things led me to think of the registration area and it's inherent problems.

[mezerwi]

Currently ive changed whole unit 1 with spare one. I think it has something to do with what mrfixit51 stated. I check the sensor which seems to be ok.

[teckat]

Currently ive changed whole unit 1 with spare one. I think it has something to do with what mrfixit51 stated. I check the sensor which seems to be ok.

COPIER>TEST>PG5
Adjusting the Image Position for Printer Output-
have you checked your leading edge ????-COPIER>ADJUST>BLANK>BLANK-T
(Margin along leading edge) 4+1.5mm,-1.0mm
Check to make sure the setting of the following is ‘106’:
COPIER>ADJUST>FEED-ADJ>REGIST
• A higher setting increases the margin.
• A lower setting decreases the margin.


+ COPIER>ADJUST>BLANK>BLANK-B
• A higher setting increases the margin.
• A lower setting decreases the margin.
image trailing edge margin) 2.5+1.5mm

[mezerwi]

Seems that problem only exist when i do duplex printing. I guess problem with unit no.2. Any idea guys?

[jvargas]

on the rigth of the duplex unit, you can find a foam roller, maybe it was your problem, you need to move slowly and you feel like a brake, looking for that, replace it

[mrfixit51]

on the rigth of the duplex unit, you can find a foam roller, maybe it was your problem, you need to move slowly and you feel like a brake, looking for that, replace it

Sounds like a good candidate, that roller, can also be flat spotted, like the two larger ones in the vertical path on the right side of the copier, caused more by age than anything else...

[mezerwi]

Re: IR8500 Jam Code : 0109 [FFff]

Hi guys,

The same machine, same problem. It happened again after a long period of use.

I tried Testprint PG1, and I noticed that after a few copies of a single side, there are some delays in printing. Means improved margins on some printed paper. [X margin].

I switch around a unit with other machines, and this problem still exists.

So my opinion, the unit 1 is still in good condition.

I think it is related to the vertical path. The problem is, I do not know where to start.

Any help guys?

Regards
Mezerwi