Canon Imagepress 7010VPS supplied by Oce

[Guest]

I wonder is there is there anyone who can give me some feedback/advice

We were originally looking to buy a Canon Imagepress C7010VP with a Fiery controller, however myself and a couple of people within the organisation have now looked at a Canon 7010VPS supplied by Oce, this comes with an Oce built controller called a prismasync which is media driven. however I am now having reservations about purchasing this system until I can get some sort of user/technical/performance feedback.

What are peoples experiences/opinions with this system? we are spending a lot of money and do not want to make an expensive mistake.

Thank you

[teckat]

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[confuseduser]

Thanks for the reply. Have you any experience with this machine Teckat? what is your opinion of the Canon/oce machine combination?

[charm5496]

We sold 2 IP-7010's to a book printer who was originally looking at the Oce' version with the internal print supplied from Oce' similar to what you are looking at I assume. Our solution was higher in price, but the cusomter said that the output with our Fiery driven engines were much better than that of the Oce'. I have never seen the output personally and this is the only customer I know of that was looking at in our area.

[teckat]

Seen only in DEMO mode/ & Canon DEMO's are deceiving

[confuseduser]

Re: Canon Imagepress 7010VPS supplied by Oce

We have decided to go with the Fiery option, although more expensive the color output on all types of media was far superior to the 7010VPS prismasync oce option. For anyone considering the oce option it is certainly worth taking test files along to the dem to see how the system performs against a Fiery driven machine. The prisma system also crashed sveral times in the dem for no apparent reason; the only way to recover was a complete reboot of machine and controller. I am afraid oce have much more work to do if they want to succeed with this particular controller/machine combination.

[teckat]

Re: Canon Imagepress 7010VPS supplied by Oce

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[charm5496]

Re: Canon Imagepress 7010VPS supplied by Oce

you will happy with the Fiery system...great choice

[charm5496]

Re: Canon Imagepress 7010VPS supplied by Oce

We have decided to go with the Fiery option, although more expensive the color output on all types of media was far superior to the 7010VPS prismasync oce option. For anyone considering the oce option it is certainly worth taking test files along to the dem to see how the system performs against a Fiery driven machine. The prisma system also crashed sveral times in the dem for no apparent reason; the only way to recover was a complete reboot of machine and controller. I am afraid oce have much more work to do if they want to succeed with this particular controller/machine combination.

how did the unit perform on job processing? Just went through the online training course and was curious what your opinion was since you go to see it perform in person.

[confuseduser]

Re: Canon Imagepress 7010VPS supplied by Oce

how did the unit perform on job processing? Just went through the online training course and was curious what your opinion was since you go to see it perform in person.

The Prismasync (oce) locked up badly several times when processing several complex jobs whereas the Fiery processed the same files without any problems. On other test files the processing time was comparable on both machines. The poor colour output and the fact that the prisma crashed during the processing of our test files is what swung it for us in favour of the Fiery.

[CanonSco]

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I think the Fiery was the right choice. But I have not seen the OCE Primasync in action yet.

Out of curiosity, now Canon owns OCE, who would have been servicing the OCE variant?

[confuseduser]

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From what I have heard Oce can supply and service more or less the whole range of Imagerunner and Imagepress products. The prismasync version we looked at would have been serviced by oce but I have heard Canon is going to sell the 7010 with the prisma controller as well and quite a few of the canon engineers have already been trained on this system.

[pietjepuk]

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We have a Canon ImagePRESS C6000VP and a Oce VP4110 (with PRISMAsync)
In terms of usability the PRISMAsync is much better.
On color output i do not know because i have no experience with that.

[charm5496]

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from what I have heard all the Oce branhes across the US will be handling both the Oce and Canon lines. Also it has been said that the CBS branches might be merging with the Oce branches to reduce cost.

We are a canon dealership and are still deciding on if we want to sell the primasync or not.

[confuseduser]

Re: Canon Imagepress 7010VPS supplied by Oce

A commercial printer very local to us has purchased the 7010VPS with the Oce Prismasync. There is a very serious bug in the firmware of the Oce controller, which appears only after you have printed a job and the job is then supposingly deleted from the controller, in this printers case the job reappeared a week or so later and then printed without any warning within another different job. This commercial printer prints commercially sensitive information for several big well known organisations and in this case the machine reprinted several hundred notices of redundency, luckily this was noticed before the job was sent out. It seems some jobs that are deleted are never reprinted. others will reprint at random at any time without warning. This machine could cause you some serious problems unless you check every single sheet of every job. I'm more than happy with my 7010VP and Fiery combination, you have been warned...