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  • copierpro
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    E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

    Using Vista on a new laptop we got connect fine to 7105 via crossover - had a bad HDD (E0602-0001 code) replaced HDD w/firmware loaded.

    Connect w/SST 452ec using updated HDD .idf that is most recent and updated to "see" the Fujitsu HDD in 7105; all connections to main board good, boot rom 10.39 good, dram good, when go to download mode 2+8 to start in assist mode to let SST decide what else needs uploaded to HDD we get the prompt "was HD replaced" ----> click "Yes" ---->HDD cannot initialize E240 error -5 message.

    Even tried a boot rom v 50.37 no go with that, too. All boot roms same n versions so no problems there trying to use C version when N required.

    I did notice an open connector in SCSI board to left of main controller where internal scsi connects; there is also an open connector right of 2 pin connector top left of main controller. Tech said they are not used and not the issue. But I wonder if there is a wire connector missing that goes into one or both of those ports that plugs into board below the main controller.

    Our tech thinks we should just give up on it there is some issue that will take too much time to even make it worthwhile from a bill of materials standpoint and since it is a trade just keep it around for parts.

    I believe something simple is being overlooked. This is a mint machine low meter want to get it running. Any advice appreciated and thanks in advance.
  • teckat
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    Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

    U can not replace a HDD with printer firmware pre-loaded from another iR into another imageRunner-
    all HDD's put in an iR need to first be formated using the SST.

    the 7105 HDFormat.ift file is encrypted / u need to use the same model HHD in 7105 or a OEM Canon HD


    When installing System Software onto imageRUNNER 7086/ 7095/ 7105/ 7095 Printer copiers lower than v55.05, the following important steps must be followed:
    1. Place the machine in Download Mode by holding down 2 & 8 and powering ON the main switch.
    2. Using the Service Support Tool v4.22Et or higher, check the “Special Box” at the top left.
    3. Select “iR7105” Folder/ “SINGLE” and install “Special BootROM v10.99”.
    4. Turn OFF the Machine and then back ON holding 2 & 8 to place back into Download Mode.

    Once the BootROM is rewritten, it cannot be returned to the old model version
    5. Using the Service Support Tool v4.22Et or higher, select iR7105_V2 and perform an “ALL
    PARTIONS” HD-FORMAT to the Hard Disk Drive [HDD].
    6. Select “ALL” to install System Software v55.05 or higher.
    7. Power OFF & ON Machine. The machine will extract and install the system software.
    8. When installation is completed, turn OFF, then ON holding down 1 & 7 to place into “FIXED IP”
    Download Mode.
    9. Select iR7105_V2 and select “SINGLE” to install the Accessories.
    Note:
    After flashing the accessories firmware by way of an ARCNET connection, be sure to select the
    “SHUTDOWN” button on the Service Support Tool or the accessories will not upgrade. Pressing the
    Shutdown will place the 7086/ 7105/ 7096/ 7105 printer into a pre-shutdown mode.
    **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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    • copierpro
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      Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

      Thanks much I appreciate it. I will get another hard drive NOT pre-loaded then start from the top as you suggest. I appreciate it.

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      • teckat
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        Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

        Originally posted by copierpro
        Thanks much I appreciate it. I will get another hard drive NOT pre-loaded then start from the top as you suggest. I appreciate it.

        http://www.dsnproducts.com/xcart/sea...=search&page=1

        SKU: WM2-5231-000(new# WM2-5244-000)
        IR7095PRT V2 208V UL

        HARD DISK DRIVE, MHV2040AH

        HTS541640J9AT0

        WM2-5244-000= OEM PART #
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        • copierpro
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          Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

          Thanks tek I will get the MHV2040AH and go from a new start. The offending file in box with E240 error is HDFormatALL:c:\ServTool\iRYYYY\HDFORMAT\XXxxv0012\ iRYYYYXXxx0012-HDFormat.ift

          Which only means I need a clean drive I assume.

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          • copierpro
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            But I am going to get the Fuijitsu (Toshiba) MHV2040AH open market new and empty (not loaded with any software) for about $80.00 instead of Canon OEM for $252 at DSN - every buck counts in this oofice equipment market right now.

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            • copierpro
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              Tec - my tech is telling me "tech is incorrect about new style Image Runners. There are no "printer" or "copier" versions anymore. Just one firmware with a different boot rom to give that machine the capiblity of printing with the proper boot rom installed" as to a hard drive being replaced as we are - but I am still going to get a clean hard drive anyway.

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              • teckat
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                Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

                Originally posted by copierpro
                Tec - my tech is telling me "tech is incorrect about new style Image Runners. There are no "printer" or "copier" versions anymore. Just one firmware with a different boot rom to give that machine the capiblity of printing with the proper boot rom installed" as to a hard drive being replaced as we are - but I am still going to get a clean hard drive anyway.

                I know all about the single firmware versions for BOOT ROMS /
                Printer Kits for many of the newer Canon devices are LMS based.
                The BootROM on these devices will always end with a C.
                There is no N, P, or H BootROM for these devices.
                u still need either to purchase/ then activate a LMS Based Printer Kit or install a Fiery

                Multi-PDL Printer Kit-H2=OPTION
                Universal Send Kit-E1=OPTION
                imagePASS-S2=OPTION
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                • copierpro
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                  Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

                  Tec - right now I just want the copier to boot up and pass a copy for now don't care about print - and the boot rom we have I confirm it has no C or N designation. I have a Ver 10.38 J1010 (FM3-5435 04) and one Ver 50.47 J1010 (FM3-4381 02) we are trying to use. On processor side of card both are marked BootRom I02 TYPE-A

                  I just want it to pass paper then we can address the print kit.

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                  • teckat
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                    Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

                    Originally posted by copierpro
                    Tec - right now I just want the copier to boot up and pass a copy for now don't care about print - and the boot rom we have I confirm it has no C or N designation. I have a Ver 10.38 J1010 (FM3-5435 04) and one Ver 50.47 J1010 (FM3-4381 02) we are trying to use. On processor side of card both are marked BootRom I02 TYPE-A

                    I just want it to pass paper then we can address the print kit.



                    install the boot v 50.07 in printer
                    in download mode FORMAT the HDD in printer
                    then re-load your Firmware


                    what is the big deal ??????
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                    • copierpro
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                      Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

                      E240 SST 542Ec error when we try to upload the firmware - will not initialize. That is the issue.

                      I guess I am missing the instructions for format?

                      When we open SST 4.52Ec then go to upload on copier 2+8 power up the original E0602-0001 copier error code appears on copier display then "Download Mode" at top of display.

                      We select ir7105 then "Single" to upload firmware then SST box pops up "Did you replace Hard Drive? We answer yes; then "would you like to initialize" --->answer "yes" then E240 error then pops up could not initialize hard drive........\

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                      • teckat
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                        Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

                        1.-- DO NOT OPEN THE SST PROGRAM
                        2.-- First/ Start up printer in safe mode/Turn on the main power while holding down the keys 2+8 to perform full formatting using the SST (DOWNLOAD)
                        3.-- now open SST program
                        4.--are u selecting 7105/single or 7105_V2 single ??????
                        5.-- Select SINGLE >
                        5.-- Do not select "NEW HDD", if there is 7105 firmware loaded in it
                        6.-- Only select NEW if the HDD has no Firmware on it
                        7.-- After the FORMAT/ U can now select "ALL_HDF" to finish loading rest of Firmware

                        see other instructions for 7105 above
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                        • copierpro
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                          Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

                          We are selecting ir7105 "single" and not ir7015_V2 "single"

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                          • nivssluck
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                            Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

                            Originally posted by copierpro
                            We are selecting ir7105 "single" and not ir7015_V2 "single"
                            If you encounter a E602-0001 error while holding the 2&8 it seems that the machine cannot recognize the HDD or your HDD is defective or not compatible. Check the connector from Serial PCB to Dc to main controller or check if your HDD cable is fitted properly....

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                            • copierpro
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                              Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

                              is the connector you speak of a small (about 6 inches) ribbon cable connector from serial PCB to controller board?

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