Getting a rubbing noise from the area of the transfer blade. just wandering if these blades ever cause this kind of noise. can't pinpoint it exactly but wandering if has been a common problem, might save me some time and I will get one on the way...thanks!
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Think I have the noise taken care of, replaced the blade assy.
On another note. I bought the machine to resale, has 166k on it. getting an e020-01b0 code (yellow drum). the counter is only showing 22 percent. could the drum actually be bad at that percentage? I mean, I'm sure it could, but has anyone had that at that count or is there something else I should look at? Thanks!! -
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noise also comes from the two foam seals inside ITB that rub interior of ITB sheet
CHECK the yellow toner cartridge drive assembly
MTR Specify motor checking the operation.
Operation method
1)Select the item.
2)Enter the motor code with the numeric keypad.
1: Drum ITB motor (M1)
2: Toner container motor (Y) (M20)
3: Toner container motor (M) (M21)
4: Toner container motor (C) (M22)
5: Toner container motor (Bk) (M23)
MTR-ON Start the motor operation.
Operation method
Toner container motor (Y/M/C/K):
1)Remove the toner container, and Key up the printer with cover open.
2)Select the item, and press [OK].
ON for 10 sec > OFF
make sure the white couplings have not popped off
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also check the Drum couplings/cams
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Actually I am getting a clicking noise also before it throws the code also. I put a blade in for a 5185. Is that the same blade. First heard the noise when I turned it on without the blade installed. After I installed the blade, it persisted but think its something to do with the blade. Does the machine click if it isnt installed?Comment
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never run the printer without the ITB Cleaning blade
machine has a ITB cleaning Blade
and it uses a Secondary transfer external roller
foam seals are not a blade/ they are stuck inside ITB unit frameSEALS.JPG
[1] ITB
[2] Duct Seal
[3] ITB Assembly
If the Fixing Assembly 20T Gear
replace the 20T gear with a new one. It is not necessary to replace the Fixing Assembly.
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FIX.JPG**Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**Comment
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Oops. Actually it only initialized, didnt run a copy without it but regardless, good to know.Comment
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well, found a slightly used yellow drum, popped it in, now getting 020-02b0. now im after a magenta drum. funny how that happens. it too shows a low percentage, but so what, the yellow did too........b/w runs perfectly and copies are great. Guess this means the itb and such are decent then. I Still have the clicking noise and it presents itself when running motor 17 in service mode. off to look that up. thanks for the input. will let you know after replacing magenta drum. There is a roar that is present when making copies, almost like a vibration, but it does not present itself in any motor check. guess it's just noisy. Just seems louder than others I have serviced. Coming from middle of machine maybe to fuser side so could be anywhere. pushing in on the fuser door makes no difference, but after thinking about it, I guess it wouldn't, lol.Comment
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Found my clicking noise. it happens with duplex running. there is a electomagnetic clutch in the front of the duplexer you can see when you lift the cover. the rubber belt slips under drive on each revolution of the gear that drives the clutch. maybe missing a bushing?Comment
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YELLOW is the start patch that is laid down on the ITB on start up/ initial rotation
if pattern read does not see it/ u have an error on yellow
Check to see if a patch is formed on the ITB at time of the SALT control
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MTR -motor checking the operation.
1)Select the item.
2)Enter the motor code with the numeric keypad.
1: Drum ITB motor (M1)
2: Toner container motor (Y) (M20)
3: Toner container motor (M) (M21)
4: Toner container motor (C) (M22)
5: Toner container motor (Bk) (M23)
6: Cassette 1 pickup motor (M6)
7: Cassette 2 pickup motor (M7)
8: Cassette 3 pickup motor (M51)
9: Cassette 4 pickup motor (M52)
10: Paper deck main motor (M1D) (Paper deck)
11: Pre-registration motor (M8)
12: Registration motor (M9)
13: Delivery vertical path motor (M10)
14: Face-down delivery motor (M11)
15: Reserve
16: Horizontal registration motor (M25)
17: Duplexing feed motor (M26)
18: Developing motor (Y) (M12)
19: Developing motor (M) (M13)
20: Developing motor (C) (M14)
21: Developing motor (Bk) (M15)**Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**Comment
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correct, duplexing feed motor...fixing to see why the drive is binding at the clutch.
also, the yellow code is now gone after replacing drum, now am getting magenta code. am gonna install that tomorrow. thanks!Comment
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So I am guessing it is possible for the 02b0 code to go away. it came up twice but is working for now. I know it will come back. Anyway, here are a couple of copies from the machine. If I watch the ITB cycle from the right side (by removing access cover), I see lots of cyan and magenta background on the itb as it cycles, It's nice and clean on Black. Is this a drum issue? Sorry, still learning color and I am a one man show, just trying to learn some things. Why is there no background when running black. Is it because there's no power to the color drums at that point?Comment
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first off > all of your colors are over saturated> & over toned> especially CYAN-
when was the last time u did a FULL AUTO GRADATION ??
Do u have a Fiery(imagePass) connected ? if so u need to calibrate it-
take a look>>
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Depending on what color is causing the background, will help you to diagnose where the problem lies. If the color is Yellow then the Yellow Laser must be replaced, if the color is Cyan then replace the Cyan Laser.
You can further troubleshoot the problem by swapping around the Lasers from one color station to the other but you must remember to input the Laser values in service mode which are printed on top of the Laser.
this is what your color chart should show>>>>>>>
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Print3.JPG
nice and smooth/
READ THIS PDF>>>>>>**Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**Comment
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I will do auto gradation in the morning. Just got this machine in. I dont have the fiery connected. Wasn't expecting the laser to be the problem though. Thought it would just be the drum unit. Are lasers a common replacement? Granted, I am not so sure my scanner is accurate but I definately have blue streaking/background. Thanks for the input.you seem to have lots of knowledge on canon equipment. I have serviced canon for 16 years but just havent done alot of color, trying to wrap my head around it. ThxComment
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just a note>>>
E020 with sub code of 01B0, 02B0, 03B0, 04B0.
If the drum units have been removed repeatedly without the drum guide service tool it's possible to break one or both tabs (see picture below).
These tabs open the toner hopper when the drum unit is slid in, and if they are broken, toner will not be fed into the drum unit.
NOTE: The unit may work for a while until the developer to toner ratio drops enough to cause an error.
E020_5.jpg**Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**Comment
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Did full gradation and replaced cyan drum. All is well, much better, background is gone. Thanks for the tips!
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