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  • priyansu

    #1

    ir 3235 fixi9ng flim problem

    Hai,everybody i have one canon make ir3235 machine.it showing error E007 CANTUSILY.One flim unit goes two to three days or300 pases copy.
    pl
  • zoraldinho
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    #2
    Re: ir 3235 fixi9ng flim problem

    Inspect pressure roller,bushing and bearings.
    If it ain't broke, don't fix it
    A picture is worth a thousand words

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    • teckat
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      • Jan 2010
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      #3
      Re: ir 3235 fixi9ng flim problem

      Originally posted by priyansu
      Hai,everybody i have one canon make ir3235 machine.it showing error E007 CANTUSILY.One flim unit goes two to three days or300 pases copy. pl


      too add on>>>


      READ THIS PDF>>>
      E007---iR3225 Series--TP09.pdf

      There have been cases reported where the rear screw that applies pressure between the fixing film and the pressure roller has become stripped. This creates uneven pressure which then causes the film to track improperly until it tears and generates a E007 code. Workaround is to replace the stripped screw with a longer screw or replace the fuser assembly. Also, do not overlook the screw hole in the metal making sure the threads are intact. fix1.jpgfix2.jpgfix3.jpg MAKE SURE U INSTALLED CORRECT PART IF U REPLACED UNIT Fuser Unit part number FM3-1293-020 is used for the iR 4570/3570/3045/3035 models. Fuser Unit part number FM3-7066-000 is used for the iR3245/3235/3230 models.
      **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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      • Borsody75
        Technician

        50+ Posts
        • Mar 2011
        • 83

        #4
        Re: ir 3235 fixi9ng flim problem

        I have some Canon iR3235/45 modells with the same problem.

        At the first time I change only the film (non OEM)

        Second time I change the fixing film unit (FM3-7071) and the pressure roller (FC5-7207).

        Sometimes it is not enough, in that case I have to change the whole assembly (FM3-7067)

        But there are some machines in my practise that makes E007 error after 50000 copies after the changing of the original assy.

        The worst machine of all, braked its first film at the counter of 15000.

        I started to use my brain, spending a day with this problem.

        I have made a naked fixing assy, using a 2cm shorter film.
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        I have cheated the right door switch, and switched on the machine.

        At the time of the initial rotation (maybe 5 sec) the shortened film walked from right to left rapidly.

        I wanted to adjust the machine that way, to avoid walking.

        The adjust of the front or rear pressure had no result.
        The adjust of the front alignment plates unsuccessful.
        The twist of the fixing assy from rear could stop walking.
        With a modified rear alignment plate the shortened film could staying on the rear during some motor test from the service mode.
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        On the plate I have made 3 new holes as you can see on the picture above.

        To tell the truth I have not enough experience (1 month) with this modifying to say it can solve the problem.

        Any other solution?

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        • Borsody75
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          • Mar 2011
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          #5
          Re: ir 3235 fixi9ng flim problem

          Sorry, the second picture was wrong...

          This is a modified rear alignment plate:

          DSC00517.JPG

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          • iddy

            #6
            Re: ir 3235 fixi9ng flim problem

            I have ir 3235, i change three fixing film n sensor but still give error 007 am stack In this
            please help

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            • Borsody75
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              • Mar 2011
              • 83

              #7
              Re: ir 3235 fixi9ng flim problem

              In the case of fixing film goes front, and tears, with the modified back console you have 90% chance of errorless working.

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              • RHodg57
                Trusted Tech

                100+ Posts
                • Dec 2013
                • 191

                #8
                Re: ir 3235 fixi9ng flim problem

                There also is a cleaning roller on those, if I remember correctly, that gets loaded up with toner. But I would guess

                on a rebuild that would have been changed. FB5-4931-000 1 ROLLER, FIXING HEATSINK.

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                • teckat
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                  • Jan 2010
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                  #9
                  Re: ir 3235 fixi9ng flim problem

                  Originally posted by iddy
                  I have ir 3235, i change three fixing film n sensor but still give error 007 am stack In this
                  please help
                  READ THIS PDF>>> Measure to Prevent Displacement, Breakage of the Fixing Film and E007-0000

                  E007---iR3225 Series--TP09.pdf


                  There have been cases reported where the rear screw that applies pressure between the fixing film and the pressure roller has become stripped. This creates uneven pressure which then causes the film to track improperly until it tears and generates a E007 code. Workaround is to replace the stripped screw with a longer screw or replace the fuser assembly. Also, do not overlook the screw hole in the metal making sure the threads are intact. MAKE SURE U INSTALLED CORRECT PART IF U REPLACED UNIT Fuser Unit part number FM3-1293-020 is used for the iR 4570/3570/3045/3035 models. Fuser Unit part number FM3-7066-000 is used for the iR3245/3235/3230 models.


                  **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                  • Borsody75
                    Technician

                    50+ Posts
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 83

                    #10
                    Re: ir 3235 fixi9ng flim problem

                    3 years ago it was a great problem.
                    The worst case was a 3235 which teared its film at counter 30.000
                    At first we changed only the film to non OEM.
                    After 1000 copies it went wrong.
                    Then we changed the film unit.
                    After 10000 it teared.
                    Then we changed the fixing unit ,and after 10000 page the film teared again.
                    Then I started a test with a 2cm shortened film in a coverless fixing unit.
                    I pulled it backwards and started a machine with cheated doorswitch.
                    During the initial rotation the film moved to front.
                    With my modificated back console the film remains on the back.
                    In the last 3 years I made more than 20 modifications and they works.

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                    • V-P
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                      • Apr 2011
                      • 679

                      #11
                      Re: ir 3235 fixi9ng flim problem

                      I have a ir3245 with the same situation.

                      It is the 3-rd fixing film now.

                      Metal plates are perfectly balanced, back screws are not stripped.
                      New film (oem), new pressure roller + bushing + everything.
                      Alignment plates are perfectly aligned in the machine.
                      I kept an eye for like 4-500 pages it was ok.
                      After 20.000 copies it tears at the front. WTF.....

                      Customer's color is RED like Popeye after eating spinach @@@

                      I did cut off the film, cheated the door and watched the moving forward.
                      I did (on purpose) release pressure on the back screw - than added pressure on back screw.
                      The result is always the same. The film moves forward.

                      I am afraid to do that back side modification on the body of the machine...on the other hand don't know what else to do.

                      I am afraid that if I order new fixing unit - it might behave the same.

                      Ideas ???

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                      • Borsody75
                        Technician

                        50+ Posts
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 83

                        #12
                        Re: ir 3235 fixi9ng flim problem

                        Hello V-P

                        Until now I made more than 20 modificated console, and maybe 1 doesn't solved the problem.
                        If the fixing unit with this modification became noisy you have to pull out on the back side a bit, to increase the distance of the drive and driven gears.
                        I used a 2,5 and after a 3,5 mm drill bit, with a drill stand.
                        On the other hand, you have nothing to loose, this is a reversible process.

                        Good Luck

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