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  • pontiac
    Trusted Tech
    • Apr 2008
    • 420

    #1

    ir 4570 jam

    I HAVE A COPIER THAT WILL GET A JAM WHEN DOING MULTIPLES, THE JAM CODE IS 109. I HAVE DONE THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE RT DOOR AND GUIDES. WHEN THE PAPER JAMS IT IS STICKING ABOUT 1 INCH OUT OF THE FUSER. aLSO THE FUSER HAS 8000 PRINTS SINCE REPLACEMENT. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.
  • teckat
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    • Jan 2010
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    #2
    Re: ir 4570 jam

    paper type ?
    paper size ?
    feed locations ? (all,one,two,DF,MF) ?
    On prints or copies /or both ?
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    • blazebusiness
      SanDiegoCopierRepair.com

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      • Apr 2010
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      #3
      Re: ir 4570 jam

      Originally posted by pontiac
      I HAVE A COPIER THAT WILL GET A JAM WHEN DOING MULTIPLES, THE JAM CODE IS 109. I HAVE DONE THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE RT DOOR AND GUIDES. WHEN THE PAPER JAMS IT IS STICKING ABOUT 1 INCH OUT OF THE FUSER. aLSO THE FUSER HAS 8000 PRINTS SINCE REPLACEMENT. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.
      Have you looked at the lead edge of the paper that jams & inspected it for marks or indentations? Does it dog ear the paper once in a while? Does that machine have the internal sorter?
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      • Rachid.Akli
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        • Oct 2011
        • 595

        #4
        Re: ir 4570 jam

        Hello,

        If the paper jam is taking an accordion form, then, this can be caused by the sticking of the paper guide shown on the attached image. You can eliminate the two joints ( one is is front and another in the rear).


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        • copymech
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          100+ Posts
          • Sep 2011
          • 196

          #5
          Re: ir 4570 jam

          If the jams happen in the morning or after the copier has sat unused for a long time then removing the pads on the guide mentioned will solve jamming.

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          • pontiac
            Trusted Tech
            • Apr 2008
            • 420

            #6
            Re: ir 4570 jam

            Sorry guys., letter normal drawer #1 and 2,the only tray i didn't test was the bypass. Plain 20lb. No nicks, creases on lead edge. The trail edge on the other hand is accordian. It happens if your copying or printing. No problem with legal and letter r. It is attached to standup finisher. Can't think of the modle#. Meter count is 225,000 clean enviroment average is about 5,000 per month. Thanks for your help again. This is a 200 mile round trip service call and need to get as much information i can before heading up there.

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            • blazebusiness
              SanDiegoCopierRepair.com

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              • Apr 2010
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              #7
              Re: ir 4570 jam

              Originally posted by pontiac
              Sorry guys., letter normal drawer #1 and 2,the only tray i didn't test was the bypass. Plain 20lb. No nicks, creases on lead edge. The trail edge on the other hand is accordian. It happens if your copying or printing. No problem with legal and letter r. It is attached to standup finisher. Can't think of the modle#. Meter count is 225,000 clean enviroment average is about 5,000 per month. Thanks for your help again. This is a 200 mile round trip service call and need to get as much information i can before heading up there.
              In light of your long trip I'll try to be more detailed-----200 miles! Hope they are paying you well for it. I concur with the previous posts--Sounds like you need to remove the black rubber pads that function as sound dampeners (what Rachid called joints). They turn to snot and make the guides stick. Very common problem on this model. There are actually 2 different guides and we usually remove all 4 dampener pads while we're there instead of just the 2 pads mentioned above.




              Other possibilities:
              Title : Jam code 0108 or 0109

              Problem :
              When feeding letter media, paper jams just after the fixing assembly or Z folds. Inspect the 2nd Delivery Frame Assembly. It is possible for the bearing, pictured on Figure Q38 item 29 on the operator side of the machine, to drop out of the frame. This bearing is on the end of the 2nd Vertical Path Roller item 8.Reposition bearing back in frame. If there is excessive end play insert shim washer between the bearing and (E-clip) 2nd Delivery.bmp
              _______________________________________________
              Problem :
              Jam code 0108 with the trail end of the paper Z folded in the fixing assembly. Solution : The problem has been caused by a broken 1st paper delivery flapper in the 2nd delivery frame assembly.The part, FL2-1212-030 can be seen in the image below.Flapper.jpg Flapper break point1.jpg_______________________________________________
              Problem :
              The copies z-fold and crease, when exiting the fixing assembly. Solution : Perform the following in Service Mode to correct this issue.Service Mode: COPIER > ADJ > FEED ADJ > LOOP CST. Set Loop CST to a lower value. Note:The default is 63; with a range of -128 to +127.
              Last edited by blazebusiness; 02-16-2012, 03:02 PM.
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                #8
                Re: ir 4570 jam

                When the paper comes out with Z-Fold / Accordion / 3 Fold and jams after several copies with error 0108 Delay in PS14, it means that the fuser film is not rolling with the pressure roller.

                Replace fixing film, Remove the old grease (IMPORTANT), Apply Grease and replace film.

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                • teckat
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                  #9
                  Re: ir 4570 jam

                  Originally posted by hugohug
                  When the paper comes out with Z-Fold / Accordion / 3 Fold and jams after several copies with error 0108 Delay in PS14, it means that the fuser film is not rolling with the pressure roller.

                  Replace fixing film, Remove the old grease (IMPORTANT), Apply Grease and replace film.


                  again > u reply to a post from 2012

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