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  • Ingranaggio_rotto
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    #1

    lumps of toner black, on copies / prints on iR-ADV C 5051

    Another problem:
    lumps of black toner on the iR ADV C5051 ...
    I replaced both the black drum and the Developing the unit, but after a while (5,000 copies / prints approximately) the problem has reappeared ...
    Have you ever?
    Thank !
  • teckat
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    #2
    Re: lumps of toner black, on copies / prints on iR-ADV C 5051

    Originally posted by Ingranaggio_rotto
    Another problem:
    lumps of black toner on the iR ADV C5051 ...
    I replaced both the black drum and the Developing the unit, but after a while (5,000 copies / prints approximately) the problem has reappeared ...
    Have you ever?
    Thank !
    post a copy of issue

    where are buying toner ?? OEM ??
    **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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    • Ingranaggio_rotto
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      #3
      Re: lumps of toner black, on copies / prints on iR-ADV C 5051

      The toner is original, Canon...
      Then I will post a copy.

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      • northernlife
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        #4
        Re: lumps of toner black, on copies / prints on iR-ADV C 5051

        Fuser causes this issue. There's a sep blade in the fuser that causes this issue. Make sure you update the firmware if you still have a v1 5051 as the firmware fixes a lot of the fuser related issues I've been seeing (groaning, 0113's) Only thing that sucks is the film alone is near 600 bucks.

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        • Ingranaggio_rotto
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          Re: lumps of toner black, on copies / prints on iR-ADV C 5051

          I'll check....
          But I ask me: why only with toner black and not with toner color ?

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          • northernlife
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            #6
            Re: lumps of toner black, on copies / prints on iR-ADV C 5051

            I wish I could answer that. Everytime I take them apart it's just black gunk on the sep guide. The drums for BK are different than the colours so perhaps that has to do with it. But I can say that I have successfully gotten rid of those streaks with the fuser/firmware update (I love CDS)

            Originally posted by Ingranaggio_rotto
            I'll check....
            But I ask me: why only with toner black and not with toner color ?

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            • Ingranaggio_rotto
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              #7
              Re: lumps of toner black, on copies / prints on iR-ADV C 5051

              I found the cause!
              Too black toner in the developing unit ! Removing the toner bottle and discharging the group of black (PG Type 5 at 255 to 100 sheets of A3 size), everything is back to normal!
              Thank for the helps !

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              • Simons
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                • Jun 2008
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                #8
                Re: lumps of toner black, on copies / prints on iR-ADV C 5051

                Too much Black toner in the dev unit? So are you saying this was a overtoning problem. Very dense black with some shaking off in the fuser? Really? As in ifailir6870fuus?

                Where is our example attachment? I would like to see it!

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                • Ingranaggio_rotto
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                  #9
                  Re: lumps of toner black, on copies / prints on iR-ADV C 5051

                  Hi ....
                  This printer has something like 890,000.0 copies / prints.
                  And in total, just 165.000 color ...
                  He works extensively with the b / w ....
                  And for the last time he worked exclusively with the black group .....
                  Causing a overtoner black ...
                  Unfortunately I no longer have an example to show!

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                  • teckat
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                    #10
                    Re: lumps of toner black, on copies / prints on iR-ADV C 5051

                    overtonedhanddrawing2cn3.jpg

                    heavy volume will usually not cause overtone on these new type iR's


                    just tell your customer to do the prescribed auto gradation procedures daily
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                    • Ingranaggio_rotto
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                      #11
                      Re: lumps of toner black, on copies / prints on iR-ADV C 5051

                      The auto gradation procedure It 's something that the customer appears to be just a waste of time... .
                      However I would add that the printer had a quality not very good, despite the 4 drums had a life relatively new (4,000 copies / prints around).
                      So I had this idea: RAM clear DCcon ...
                      I ONLY rewrite the table values ​​placed on the front door ..
                      Running INIT ITB, AT-IMG-X, Autogradation, and quality has definitely changed for the better!
                      Black is back .. black (not saturated, because even after all those type 5 in very high density, the group is discharged!)
                      Problem solved!

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                      • niyaskarimba
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                        #12
                        Re: lumps of toner black, on copies / prints on iR-ADV C 5051

                        Originally posted by teckat;27879
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                        heavy volume will usually not cause overtone on these new type iR's[/B]

                        just tell your customer to do the prescribed auto gradation procedures daily


                        i have the similar problem...when we are changing the toner it starts,but we are using OEM TONER(GPR-30/C-EXV-28)

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                        • niyaskarimba
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                          #13
                          Re: lumps of toner black, on copies / prints on iR-ADV C 5051

                          [QUOTE=niyaskarimba;497351]i have the similar problem...when we are changing the toner it starts,but we are using OEM TONER(GPR-30/C-EXV-28)[/QUO

                          Please suggest

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                          • niyaskarimba
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                            • Sep 2014
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                            #14
                            Re: lumps of toner black, on copies / prints on iR-ADV C 5051

                            Originally posted by teckat
                            [ATTACH=CONFIG]14719[/ATTACH]

                            heavy volume will usually not cause overtone on these new type iR's


                            just tell your customer to do the prescribed auto gradation procedures daily
                            [QUOTE=niyaskarimba;497352][QUOTE=niyaskarimba;497351]i have the similar problem...when we are changing the toner it starts,but we are using OEM TONER(GPR-30/C-EXV-28)[/QUO

                            Please check the attachment and suggest
                            Attached Files

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                            • teckat
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                              Re: lumps of toner black, on copies / prints on iR-ADV C 5051

                              [QUOTE=niyaskarimba;497354][QUOTE=niyaskarimba;497352]
                              Originally posted by niyaskarimba
                              i have the similar problem...when we are changing the toner it starts,but we are using OEM TONER(GPR-30/C-EXV-28)[/QUO

                              Please check the attachment and suggest
                              ==========================================

                              is this a Print or Copy of original from Glass/Feeder




                              repeating image every 94mm.


                              Perform a forced drum replacement in service mode (Level 1 > Copier > Function > DPC > DRMRSETY, DRMRSETM, DRMRSETC,DRMRSETK). Then perform a complete auto gradation.


                              is this issue on BLACK ONLY ??
                              do u see howfaint image transfer from previous same copy is transferred to next copy

                              have u checked ITB assembly & Black Drum ??


                              repeat.jpg
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