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  • nogood boyo
    Trusted Tech
    • Mar 2012
    • 156

    [Error Code] 5065 and 5185

    There is an error code E000014-000 on 5065. fixing motor error or phase lock signal.

    Im pretty sure it is the fixing motor but if i remove the actuall motor from the fixing unit and turn it on, it runs fine. I was hoping for a little bit of feed back with the issue.

    ive already swapped out the fuser unit with a new rebuild.

    could it be one of the fixing sensors? has anybody had an issue similar to this before, ive been told that fixing motors dont fail very often?



    I also have a 5185 machine with the error code E000007-0211

    is the only way to trouble shoot this is to take meter reads off of the fixing belt displacement control motor and the pressure belt displacement control motor? there are eight fixing sensors in this case... should i go through and check them all with meter reads as well?

    My TRG reccomends just replacing the fixing unit (kind of what i would rather do) but my service coordinator has told me it is two thounsand dollar part for this machine.

    i had someone help me pull out the unit and check the termo fuse and clean up the sensors but still the same error code.

    any body have any experience with this error code in the past?

    thanks heaps!
    and happy mothers day!
  • teckat
    Field Supervisor

    Site Contributor
    10,000+ Posts
    • Jan 2010
    • 16092

    #2
    Re: 5065 and 5185

    E007-0211 Error of temporary prevention of full displacement of belt.
    (When a belt was displaced to the rear side and could not move to the center, the displacement of the belt
    was not eliminated within one minute in the belt displacement temporary prevention mode.)
    The Fixing / Pressure Belt displacement control drive gears are probably worn or have failed.

    Replace the fixing unit.

    These units do not last forever/can not re-build them anymore



    E000014-000 on 5065
    1-Make sure 24 volts DC is present at the Fixing Drive motor.
    2-Check the front door switch SW2 > and/or Adjust the magnet on the front door to depress the front door switch fully.
    **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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    • vigour
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Aug 2010
      • 1034

      #3
      Re: 5065 and 5185

      e014 5065

      your motor is bad or there is a problem causing it not to turn.
      1 your lower bearings may be seized
      2 your upper gears may be cracked ------ in your case not likely since you replaced upper fuser.

      open the front door
      take the plastic panels off the fixing feeder assy.
      cheat the switch and watch the motor turn.
      if it struggles or keeps varying the speed , change it
      the motors rarely go but that does not stop yours from going bad.

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      • nogood boyo
        Trusted Tech
        • Mar 2012
        • 156

        #4
        Re: 5065 and 5185

        Originally posted by teckat
        E007-0211 Error of temporary prevention of full displacement of belt.
        (When a belt was displaced to the rear side and could not move to the center, the displacement of the belt
        was not eliminated within one minute in the belt displacement temporary prevention mode.)
        The Fixing / Pressure Belt displacement control drive gears are probably worn or have failed.

        Replace the fixing unit.

        These units do not last forever/can not re-build them anymore
        Thanks.

        This was my gut instinct... but i just wasnt sure if it just might also be a sensor error or motor error, to avoid replacing the the whole fixing unit.

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        • nogood boyo
          Trusted Tech
          • Mar 2012
          • 156

          #5
          Re: 5065 and 5185

          Originally posted by vigour
          e014 5065
          if it struggles or keeps varying the speed , change it
          the motors rarely go but that does not stop yours from going bad.

          this is exactly what happens.

          thanks.

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          • nogood boyo
            Trusted Tech
            • Mar 2012
            • 156

            #6
            Re: 5065 and 5185

            i am looking to order a fixing aassembly for the 5185...

            there are three options to choose from, how do i determine if the fixing unit should be, 100V, 120V, or 230V?

            the only part number my service coordinator can confirm is for the 120V.

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            • vigour
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Aug 2010
              • 1034

              #7
              Re: 5065 and 5185

              fm3-3778-00r
              120v for alberta. canada, north america

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              • nogood boyo
                Trusted Tech
                • Mar 2012
                • 156

                #8
                Re: 5065 and 5185

                Originally posted by vigour
                fm3-3778-00r
                120v for alberta. canada, north america
                awesome,
                thanks.

                that is a very different part number for what i have tho.

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                • vigour
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1034

                  #9
                  Re: 5065 and 5185

                  00r or 000r means it is refurbed.
                  If they gave you FM3-0691, as far as I know they dont make that anymore.
                  It had less parts and you had to transfer a whole lot more aver from the old unit.

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                  • teckat
                    Field Supervisor

                    Site Contributor
                    10,000+ Posts
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 16092

                    #10
                    Re: 5065 and 5185

                    Originally posted by nogood boyo
                    Thanks.

                    This was my gut instinct... but i just wasnt sure if it just might also be a sensor error or motor error, to avoid replacing the the whole fixing unit.

                    there are small gears that break/crack/on 5180 fix unit
                    pull out unit to inspect



                    if belt is damaged>u need to replace unit/if gears a broken u can replace them

                    READ THESE PDF's>>
                    5185_007 Checks.pdf
                    Fixing Unit_TP07-168.pdf
                    **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                    • nogood boyo
                      Trusted Tech
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 156

                      #11
                      Re: 5065 and 5185

                      So this 5065 that i was working on has a problem with the finisher,

                      the paper still prints out of each of the trays but
                      its not collating, or stapling, or hole punching.

                      there isn't an error that displays on the control panel except for a small display on the bottom left corner:

                      "finisher cannot be used"

                      any ideas where to begin with this?

                      thanks heaps!

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                      • teckat
                        Field Supervisor

                        Site Contributor
                        10,000+ Posts
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 16092

                        #12
                        Re: 5065 and 5185

                        Originally posted by nogood boyo
                        So this 5065 that i was working on has a problem with the finisher,

                        the paper still prints out of each of the trays but
                        its not collating, or stapling, or hole punching.

                        there isn't an error that displays on the control panel except for a small display on the bottom left corner:

                        "finisher cannot be used"

                        any ideas where to begin with this?

                        thanks heaps!



                        Limited Function mode
                        **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                        • nogood boyo
                          Trusted Tech
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 156

                          #13
                          Re: 5065 and 5185

                          Aaaaand now I know about limited function mode.

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