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  • bluesky2000
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    • Nov 2010
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    i have question for ir 6570

    hi all ...

    i wont the setting for feeder :

    i put a paper A4 landscape in feeder and print it with tray 1 in my device ?
  • teckat
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    #2
    Re: i have question for ir 6570

    Originally posted by bluesky2000
    hi all ...

    i wont the setting for feeder :

    i put a paper A4 landscape in feeder and print it with tray 1 in my device ?
    User Mode
    Common Settings

    enable/disable cassette auto

    copier
    /printer/box/other (manual feed: ON/*OFF + individual
    cassette: *ON/OFF)
    (manual feed not possible for printer)


    set delivery tray**
    (w/ finisher)
    - Finisher-T1/Saddle Finisher-T2
    tray A: copier, box, printer, reception/fax*, other*
    tray B: copier*, box*, printer*, reception/fax, other
    tray C: copier*, box*, printer*, reception/fax, other
    tray basic position: tray B*/tray C/not selected
    detail setup:
    tray A: reception*/fax*
    tray B: reception/fax
    tray c: reception/fax
    set printing priority copier: *1/2/3
    printer: 1/*2/3
    box: 1/2/*3
    reception/fax: 1/2/*3
    other: 1/2/*3


    ADF- adjustments in service mode

    ----Tray width adjustment
    COPIER > FEEDER > FUNCTION

    FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-A4
    FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-A5R
    FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-LTR
    FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-LTRR

    ADF sensor sensitivity adjustment
    FEEDER>FUNCTION>SENS-INT


    COPIER > OPTION > BODY
    MODEL-SZ Use it to switchover the default magnification ratios and ADF original size detection.
    0: AB (6R5E)
    1: inch (5R4E)
    2: A (3R3E)
    3: AB/inch (6R5E)
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    • bluesky2000
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      #3
      Re: i have question for ir 6570

      I want to put paper in the lengthwise and use feeder to print it using the first cassette

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      • teckat
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        Re: i have question for ir 6570

        Originally posted by bluesky2000
        I want to put paper in the lengthwise and use feeder to print it using the first cassette

        what size paper is in tray #3 ??
        if A4> just adjust direction to A4R >> SEE BELOW



        u probably mean cassette #3
        first
        cassette >the one below the decks
        see below

        a4-paper.png

        1) Press the Additional Functions key.
        2) Select the Common Settings option.
        3) Scroll until you see the option for Drawer Eligibility for APS/ADS.
        4) Depending on which model imageRUNNER being set, some of the following options are available for selection: Copy, Printer, Mailbox, Fax, and Other.

        5) Once the selection of Copy, Printer, Mailbox, Fax, or Other is made, go to the cassette notation where the paper is located and select ON .

        6) Press OK, then Press Done.

        in LEVEL1

        In service mode level 1 COPIER>OPTION>BODY>MODEL-SZ is set at 3


        in LEVEL 2

        Also make sure the Copier> Option > Body>model SZ2 is set correctly and Copier>Option>User >Size Det. is set.

        set both to 1

        Cassette 3
        COPIER > FUNCTION > CST > C3-STMTR/A4R
        Use it to register the paper width basic value of the cassette 3.
        1) Put STMTR/A4R paper in the cassette3, and adjust the slide guide plate to the width.
        2) Select C3-STMTR/A4R to highlight, and press the OK key so that the machine executes auto
        adjustment and register the value.
        Cassette 4
        COPIER > FUNCTION > CST > C4-STMTR/A4R
        This operation is similar to cassette 3.
        **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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        • bluesky2000
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          • Nov 2010
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          #5
          Re: i have question for ir 6570

          ok sir

          thank you so much for help


          look, i put in feeder paper A4/R

          and print it by use the first cassette ((( the first cassette is A4 )))

          i don't want to print with third cassette ((( third cassette A4/R )))

          i want the first cassette because it fast ....

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          • iRC
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            • Apr 2010
            • 96

            #6
            Re: i have question for ir 6570

            Originally posted by bluesky2000
            ok sir

            thank you so much for help


            look, i put in feeder paper A4/R

            and print it by use the first cassette ((( the first cassette is A4 )))

            i don't want to print with third cassette ((( third cassette A4/R )))

            i want the first cassette because it fast ....
            The iR6570's cassettes 1 and 2 cannot be changed to A4R. They are only meant for A4 or LTR.
            And A4R is always slower than normal A4.

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            • teckat
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              Re: i have question for ir 6570

              imageRUNNER 5570/6570 -speed in red for 6570


              Copy Speed Up to 55cpm, 65cpm (LTR), 31cpm, 31cpm (11” x 17”), 39cpm, 39cpm (LGL),
              43cpm, 50cpm (LTRR), 35cpm, 35cpm (STMTR)

              Multi-page Copy Speed
              Up to 55cpm, 65cpm (LTR), 31cpm, 31cpm (11” x 17”), 39cpm, 39cpm (LGL),
              43cpm, 50cpm (LTRR), 35cpm, 35cpm (STMTR)

              click on pic to expand

              paper.JPG
              Last edited by teckat; 06-21-2012, 04:04 PM.
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              • bluesky2000
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                #8
                Re: i have question for ir 6570

                ok it's work

                but there are a one problem

                when i put a paper A4R in feeder and print it the machine read it is A3 why !

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                • teckat
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                  Re: i have question for ir 6570

                  Originally posted by bluesky2000
                  ok it's work

                  but there are a one problem

                  when i put a paper A4R in feeder and print it the machine read it is A3 why !


                  what does the #3 tray READ OUT say on control panel when it's loaded with paper in A4R direction ??
                  if it does not read A4R>>do a
                  Copier>Function>CST adjustment--see below

                  Cassette 3

                  COPIER > FUNCTION > CST > C3-STMTR/A4R
                  Use it to register the paper width basic value of the cassette 3.
                  1) Put STMTR/A4R paper in the cassette3, and adjust the slide guide plate to the width.
                  2) Select C3-STMTR/A4R to highlight, and press the OK key so that the machine executes auto
                  adjustment and register the value.
                  Cassette 4
                  COPIER > FUNCTION > CST > C4-STMTR/A4R
                  This operation is similar to cassette 3.

                  if control panel sees A4R paper in tray #3
                  do this below ADF adjustment below


                  ADF- adjustments in service mode
                  ----Tray width adjustment
                  COPIER > FEEDER > FUNCTION

                  FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-A4
                  FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-A5R
                  FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-LTR
                  FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-LTRR
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                  • bluesky2000
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Re: i have question for ir 6570


                    if control panel sees A4R paper in tray #3
                    do this below ADF adjustment below


                    ADF- adjustments in service mode
                    ----Tray width adjustment
                    COPIER > FEEDER > FUNCTION

                    FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-A4
                    FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-A5R
                    FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-LTR
                    FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-LTRR
                    yes the control panel sees A4R paper in tray #3

                    i do that ok

                    wait me

                    but i think there are problem with Length and width

                    Well I try and will give you the results

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                    • bluesky2000
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                      #11
                      Re: i have question for ir 6570

                      i do it
                      but it still read the paper A4R in feeder as A3 when i print it

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                      • teckat
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                        Re: i have question for ir 6570

                        Originally posted by bluesky2000
                        i do it
                        but it still read the paper A4R in feeder as A3 when i print it
                        when it says A3 on control panel LCD > before u hit print key> lift up DF and see location of paper on glass

                        where is it ????

                        DF
                        Identifying the Size of the Original-

                        Normal Printing
                        The machine identifies the size of an original with reference to combinations of the size (width, length) detected on the original tray and the size (length) detected while the original is being moved.
                        a. Detecting the Size of the Original in Feed Direction
                        The machine detects the size of an original in feed direction with reference to the state of the post-separation sensor (PI7) after the read sensor (PI8) has gone off and the state of the LGL sensor (PI4)on the tray (LGL/STMT).
                        The machine measures the length of the time from when the read sensor goes on to when it goes off to find out the length of the original; it then uses the result of the measurement and the result of detection made on the original tray to identify the size of the original.
                        ---
                        When an original is placed on the original tray, the light-blocking plate operates in keeping with the detecting lever of the LGL sensor to block the light of the photo interrupter. The machine identifies whether or not the original is LGL with reference to the LGL sensor signal (LG_S) and the width of the original. The machine communicates the original size information to the host machine as soon as the Start key is pressed.

                        Detecting the Size of the Original in Width Direction.
                        The width of an original is detected using the original width detecting volume (VR1) found inside the original tray.
                        The volume operates in conjunction with the slide guide, its resistance changing (analog) as the slide is moved. The ADF driver PCB reads these changes in resistance as the original size signal (WIDTH), and recognizes them as specific widths.
                        To make sure that the original width volume (VR1) correctly detects A4R/LTRR and A5R/STMT widths, a special AB/inch sensor (PI4) is used inside the original tray; the sensor goes '1' (AB/inch identification signal) when the width of the original is 197 mm or more and less than 214 mm.

                        The track of the slide guide is given a groove so that the slide may stop at specific default sizes. Some sizes, however, are extremely close to each other, possibly causing the slide to stop at the wrong point. To make sure that the slide stops at the correct stops, the slide is provided with a positioning roll [1], which restricts the stops as follows:
                        Marking on slide guide positioning roll--A4R----------Slide guide stop position
                        A4R--------------------------------------------------Side with 1 groove
                        A4R/LTRR--------------------------------------------Slide with 2 grooves


                        Marking on slide guide positioning roll--INCH----------Slide guide stop position
                        LTRR--------------------------------------------------Side with 1 groove
                        A4R/LTRR--------------------------------------------Slide with 2 grooves


                        DF2.JPG


                        DF.JPG
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                        • bluesky2000
                          Technician

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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 95

                          #13
                          Re: i have question for ir 6570

                          OK

                          i have 2 machine ir 6570 ok

                          look , i change the all section ( Feeder ) one by one . and still the screen read A3 when i put A4R in feeder

                          now i think the problem with machine not in the feeder . i mean in service mode .....


                          Tomorrow will take a picture of the problem and will see it

                          thanks man for your help

                          thanks so much

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