Canon iRC3200 - Windows SMB Scan Error #751

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  • CBSPJ

    #31
    This is the fix

    Our IRC5185 has worked for over a week. WINS is the cause. Turn off WINS on the copier .

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    • CBSPJ

      #32
      still working...

      Originally posted by CBSPJ
      Our IRC5185 has worked for over a week. WINS is the cause. Turn off WINS on the copier .
      Its now been 2 weeks and over 700 pages sent to SMB no errors...

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      • maastation03

        #33
        Have you fixed the problem???

        Originally posted by phorts
        Ok, yeah it didnt sound like it was the same issue.

        and by p2p (peer to peer) network i meant that it's a simple workgroup, no server.
        I have the same problem with my Canon 3080 here at the office. Did you fix your problem and if so, what did you do??? any help would be appreciated..

        info:
        canon C3080
        win sbs2003
        no VPN or routing services
        no dhcp server

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        • maastation03

          #34
          Help....

          Originally posted by CBSPJ
          Its now been 2 weeks and over 700 pages sent to SMB no errors...

          I have the same problem with my Canon 3080 here at the office. Did you fix your problem and if so, what did you do??? any help would be appreciated..

          info:
          canon C3080
          win sbs2003
          no VPN or routing services
          no dhcp server

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          • Canuck
            Tech Specialist

            1,000+ Posts
            • Nov 2007
            • 1713

            #35
            Make sure SNMP is turned off also

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            • sgcopiertech

              #36
              Hi guys!

              Currently experiencing this same problem error #751
              symptoms is the as the thread starter:
              all functions can work, but after a few minutes ( 10mins mostly )
              the scan to function will fail (error #751) smb browse will not be able to find
              the network, but ping command on the system settings> network settings>TCP/ip
              can communicate with other host. clients can ping the copier, print documents, pull scan,
              access RUI but only the "scan to file" wouldn't.
              I tried the 2 solutions above which is:
              turn of wins
              turn of SNMP
              still got the same problem...

              anybody?

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              • DFM914
                Technician

                50+ Posts
                • Jun 2010
                • 73

                #37
                I would try a network trace using Wireshark and a hub. it has resolved many SMB scanning issues for us, Wireshark is free software and you must use a network hub, not a switch. Hubs are still available for little money. Good luck!

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                • D_L_P
                  Self Employed

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1196

                  #38
                  Does it go into sleep mode after 10 min?
                  This was in another thread but set the energy consumption from low to high. It might be dropping when it goes into sleep mode.
                  Additional Functions-> Common Settings-> Page Down-> Energy Consumption Used in Sleep Mode-> set to High.

                  Has it done this since day 1 or did it just start?

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                  • sgcopiertech

                    #39
                    @DFM914:Thanks for the tip, I am now reading about wireshark and would be checking out if I could purchase a hub online, anyways? whats the difference when using a hub and a switch. anymore suggestion based on your experience about this case?

                    @D_L_P: nope, it doesn't go to sleep mode. it is set to 4hrs. yes, the problem started from day 1. however, I am suspecting that it is a network problem but i do not have strong evidence. you see, I setup another network using a different router/switch and the problem didn't arise. but once I put the copier to the client's network(router/switch) the same problem would appear within the 10 minutes time frame.

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                    • DFM914
                      Technician

                      50+ Posts
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 73

                      #40
                      sgcopiertech: You must use a hub, i purchased 2 of them from ebay for under $10 ea. It has to be a hub as a switch directs IP traffic differently and will not give accurate results. If you do a search for Dynex 4 port hub,you will find many. This Dynex Hub can be purchased new at Best Buy for about $20 if you don't trust used from ebay. In fact I just did a network trace after installing a Xerox 5150 that will not scan to email and after reading the trace, I found it to be an authentication error. It is a very helpful tool, especially for free. Good luck.

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                      • D_L_P
                        Self Employed

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 1196

                        #41
                        It probably is an issue with their network. It sounds like the master browser isn't setup to broadcast. A workstation simply requests the info if it isn't broadcast, but the copier system isn't very robust and this would cause a failure.
                        Try and find out if their master browser (MB) is setup to broadcast or not.

                        Can you input the path as an IPaddress\share on the copier end?
                        Another option is edit the LMhost file on the workstation. Add an entry for the copiers IP address and Host name so the workstation knows how to find it.

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                        • teckat
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                          • Jan 2010
                          • 16083

                          #42
                          Originally posted by DFM914
                          I would try a network trace using Wireshark and a hub. it has resolved many SMB scanning issues for us, Wireshark is free software and you must use a network hub, not a switch. Hubs are still available for little money. Good luck!

                          #751 [SMB] Sending to a shared folder
                          -

                          -The computer name or IP address to the destination is not
                          correct.
                          -The destination computer is down or not functioning.
                          -The network is down; the server is not reachable.
                          -Not able to establish connection to the destination.
                          -The folder on the computer is not properly shared.
                          -The network settings on the destination computer might not be
                          configured with NetBIOS over TCP/IP.
                          CHECKS>
                          -Check and verify that the computer name or IP address to the
                          destination is correct.
                          -Check and verify that the destination computer is up and
                          running.
                          -Check and verify that you have a valid DNS server IP address.
                          -Try pinging the computer name to se if it resolves to the correct
                          IP address.
                          -Check and verify that the folder is properly shared and has the
                          proper permissions and security settings confirmed.
                          -Check and verify that the NetBIOS over TCP/IP in the Local
                          Area Connection settings in the destination computer is
                          configure for NetBIOS over TCP/IP is set to Enabled or set to
                          Default.


                          #751 [FTP] Sending to an FTP server-

                          -The server name or IP address is not correct.
                          -The server is down or not functioning.
                          -The network is down; the server is not reachable.
                          -Not able to establish connection to the destination.
                          -FTP server is not properly configured
                          CHECKS>
                          -Check the server name or IP address.
                          -Check that the server is up and running.
                          -Check that you have a valid DNS server IP address.
                          -Check the network.
                          -Check that the FTP server is properly configured.
                          #751 [SMTP] Sending to e-mail server

                          -The E-mail SMTP server name or IP address is not correct.
                          -The E-mail SMTP server is down or not functioning.
                          -The network is down; the E-mail SMTP server is not reachable.
                          -Not able to establish connection to the E-mail SMTP server.
                          CHECKS>
                          -Check and verify that the E-mail SMTP server name or IP
                          address correct.
                          -Check and verify that the E-mail SMTP server is up and
                          running.
                          -Check and verify that the customer is using a valid DNS server
                          IP address for their network or ISP provider.
                          -Check and verify that you are able to perform a telnet command
                          to the E-mail SMTP server.
                          Notes:
                          Please use Microsoft Outlook Express (DO NOT USE OUTLOOK) to test, verify and confirm the correct requirements for the E-mail
                          server that the customer is trying to use to send E-mail. You can bring up Microsoft Outlook Express by clicking START > RUN then
                          type MSIMN and click OK. Then create an E-mail account using the information that was provided to you and try to send an email
                          from MS Outlook Express.
                          **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                          • D_L_P
                            Self Employed

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 1196

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Techiechic
                            Hi

                            Just to let you know we resolved our error. The location of the files on the server did not have a wins entry on the server. There for the printer kept loosing network connectivity. wins was then turned back at the printer level..
                            I just read back through the posts and saw this. This sounds very similar to your issue. Can you add a WINS entry for the path on the server?

                            More on the LMHost file. It is in the C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc folder. At the end of the file add the copier's IP address and its host name.
                            example: 192.168.0.15 canon01234
                            Just another thing to try.

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                            • sgcopiertech

                              #44
                              Originally posted by D_L_P
                              It probably is an issue with their network. It sounds like the master browser isn't setup to broadcast. A workstation simply requests the info if it isn't broadcast, but the copier system isn't very robust and this would cause a failure.
                              Try and find out if their master browser (MB) is setup to broadcast or not.
                              a quick browse on wiki shows this-
                              Master Browser is responsible for the browse list within its respective subnet and portion of the domain on its subnet.
                              does master browser involves domain network only? because the clients network is only a workgroup.
                              maybe this info can help trim down the problem

                              Can you input the path as an IPaddress\share on the copier end?
                              Another option is edit the LMhost file on the workstation. Add an entry for the copiers IP address and Host name so the workstation knows how to find it.
                              Yes, I tried using IPaddress\sharedfolder but to no avail.
                              how about the LMhost file? on which workstation should I edit this one or should I edit all the workstation?
                              the network doesn't really have a server so I do not know if this would also be applicable

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                              • sgcopiertech

                                #45
                                Originally posted by D_L_P
                                I just read back through the posts and saw this. This sounds very similar to your issue. Can you add a WINS entry for the path on the server?
                                no server

                                under system settings> network settings> tcp/ip settings/ wins configuration

                                just to check, if in case the network doesn't have a domain server, does it means I can just off the wins resolution?

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