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  • carlosramosdrum
    Technician
    • Sep 2012
    • 45

    #1

    [Jamming] Paper Jamming on transfer Drum clc 1160

  • teckat
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    Re: Paper Jamming on transfer Drum clc 1160

    too many things can go wrong with printer during a transportation move, if it is not prepared properly .
    I would first check all connectors on all boards< also remove covers & check connections on front of transfer drum.
    check the spring clutch on attraction roller unit end-

    the transfer / attraction / static hvt cable that mounts in the rear of the transfer drum assembly.

    The HVT cable inside the transfer drum may be arcing or intermittently open because the spade connector's on the end of the HVT lead may not be crimped tightly.//or just loose & not connected.




    When paper from the registration roller is put on the transfer drum sheet, the registration roller
    releasing solenoid (SL5) turns on, causing the registration locking cam to rotate and, at the same
    time, releasing the registration link roller from the registration roller by the drive of the main motor
    (M4).

    The copier’s transfer drum is designed to retain paper on the transfer drum sheet using static
    charges.
    During copying operation, the attraction roller solenoid (SL6) remains on for a period of time
    equal to the length of the paper to bring the attraction roller in contact with the transfer drum sheet.

    At this time, the attraction brush turns on, causing the transfer drum sheet to attract the paper.



    The transfer drum houses the attraction brush, transfer blade, and an internal brush for
    cleaning. Each brush or blade is away from the transfer drum sheet, and is brought against the
    transfer drum sheet by its respective locking cam when the attraction/transfer locking cam motor
    (PM7) turns on as needed.
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    • carlosramosdrum
      Technician
      • Sep 2012
      • 45

      #3
      Re: Paper Jamming on transfer Drum clc 1160

      Thank you for your help. until now i cannot fix it yer. you can see this video i made to know exactly the problem.


      any more help shoud be apreciaterd...
      Thank you

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      • charm5496
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        • Apr 2008
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        Re: Paper Jamming on transfer Drum clc 1160

        it could be several different things...

        Attraction and transfer brushes that are inside the transfer drum unit
        tranfer sheet is worn or has a film on it
        HVT connection from the transder drum is broken
        retention assembly is not pressing the paper on to the transfer sheet properly

        Have you tried any other stock paper than the one you are trying in the video?
        and what type of stock is that paper you are running there?
        Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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        • teckat
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          Re: Paper Jamming on transfer Drum clc 1160

          Originally posted by carlosramosdrum
          Thank you for your help. until now i cannot fix it yer. you can see this video i made to know exactly the problem.


          any more help shoud be apreciaterd...
          Thank you
          ???? are u a tech. -

          did u follow any suggestions posted ?? search online for a free CLC1100 series manual/
          or call for help--

          it would take me 3 to 4 hrs to explain and describe conditions that can effect attraction issues
          **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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          • carlosramosdrum
            Technician
            • Sep 2012
            • 45

            #6
            Re: Paper Jamming on transfer Drum clc 1160

            Hello.
            This is nothing Inside the transfer Drum. I tested al he transfer drum unit in another clc, 1150 machine, and it worked perfect. so atraction, transfer blade and trasfer drum plastic seems to be out of the problem. the problem is in the machine itself.... any more advise to continue my research???
            Thank You

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            • charm5496
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              • Apr 2008
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              Re: Paper Jamming on transfer Drum clc 1160

              at this point you could check the HVT wires running from the back of the machine to the connector where your transfer drum connects to the rear frame.
              you could have a timing issue with the paper reaching the transfer drum as well...this would include the registration rollers, retention assembly, clutches, paper guides and horizontal feed assembly.
              Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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              • teckat
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                • Jan 2010
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                Re: Paper Jamming on transfer Drum clc 1160

                Originally posted by carlosramosdrum
                Hello.
                This is nothing Inside the transfer Drum. I tested al he transfer drum unit in another clc, 1150 machine, and it worked perfect. so atraction, transfer blade and trasfer drum plastic seems to be out of the problem. the problem is in the machine itself.... any more advise to continue my research???
                Thank You
                get a manual/

                there is a harness on transfer frame that needs checking(including black plastic connector)

                u need to remove transfer frame> get a flashlight>look inside of printer toward back>
                look to see if any torn paper bits are wedged inside the transfer frame machine side connector /
                **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                • carlosramosdrum
                  Technician
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 45

                  #9
                  Re: Paper Jamming on transfer Drum clc 1160

                  Thank you for all your support. After some researching andd read a lot thee service manual i finally found something. There are a diode burn on the backside board i ateached a picture. The diode is bad. I dessolder it and test with bad result. Now i.m trying to find one for replace. It says 2bc 26c i think. It is in bad condition but it is what i read. Can someone tell me what diode can i use here for replace?
                  thank you so mutch.
                  Attached Files

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                  • teckat
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                    Re: Paper Jamming on transfer Drum clc 1160

                    Originally posted by carlosramosdrum
                    Thank you for all your support. After some researching andd read a lot thee service manual i finally found something. There are a diode burn on the backside board i ateached a picture. The diode is bad. I dessolder it and test with bad result. Now i.m trying to find one for replace. It says 2bc 26c i think. It is in bad condition but it is what i read. Can someone tell me what diode can i use here for replace?
                    thank you so mutch.
                    what pcb is that/ Transfer driver PCB

                    post a better pic
                    **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                    • carlosramosdrum
                      Technician
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 45

                      #11

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                      • teckat
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                        Re: Paper Jamming on transfer Drum clc 1160


                        looks like the transformer T303
                        is burned out/ caused issue ?????/
                        didu remove pcb to check back area for damage ?

                        usually when u see this issue> the entire pcb is not repairable
                        /

                        R330 =FH6-3341-000 = RESISTOR, 10MOHM, 0.1W
                        R342 =FH4-9180-000 = RESISTOR, 560KOHM, 1.45W
                        IC301 =FH4-6020-000 = IC, MC-8534A, HYBRID
                        T301 =FH3-0651-000 = TRANSFORMER
                        T302 =FH3-0651-000 = TRANSFORMER
                        T303 =FH3-0538-000 = TRANSFORMER
                        T304 =FH3-0903-000 = H.V. AC TRANSFORMER
                        T305 =FH3-0903-000 =H.V. AC TRANSFORMER

                        H.V. DC PCB ASSEMBLY

                        diode 2.JPG

                        diode.JPG
                        u need to find out what caused the burn out-----


                        FG6-0910-000 - H.V. DC PCB ASSEMBLY

                        EBAY has a good used part---see link below


                        CANON FG6-0910 CLC1150 HIGH VOLTAGE DC BOARD | eBay

                        USED
                        GBP 34.99Approximately AU $53.66 Buy It NowBuy It Now
                        GBP 14.99(approx. AU $22.99) - Royal Mail International
                        Last edited by teckat; 11-28-2012, 05:01 PM.
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                        • carlosramosdrum
                          Technician
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 45

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                          • teckat
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                            Re: Paper Jamming on transfer Drum clc 1160



                            Canon does not provide diode information > D309 is just a connection point/
                            there are no wiring diagrams that show connection paths to diodes>caps>resistors>transistors etc>etc !!!!!

                            Canon uses two companies for board repair>>>

                            but u need to register on their site/
                            for overseas repair services check with a Canon Authorized dealer in your area

                            Hytec Dealer Services
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                            3600 Vineland Rd Suite 121
                            Orlando, FL 32811
                            Customer Service: 1-800-883-1001
                            Phone Number: 407-297-1001
                            Fax Number: 407-297-4310
                            Technical Support: 1-888-883-2001


                            Nation-Wide Repair Service
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                            Customer Service: 1-866-655-8676
                            Fax Number: 913-631-8372
                            Technical Support: 1-800-798-1814
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                            • carlosramosdrum
                              Technician
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 45

                              #15
                              Re: Paper Jamming on transfer Drum clc 1160

                              Ok. thank You.
                              I ordered the item on ebay, and will wait until it arrives.
                              then i will post news.... want this bad dream to over, and get the printer OK.

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