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  • bartman
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    • Sep 2010
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    #1

    Canon IR3080I Insert drum cartridge message

    I did read all the threads on this subject. It looks like I need to upgrade DCON version to 61.01. Does anyone have the latest sst and software version for this machine? Thank you. It is interesting I did not have a problem with this in my shop. While in the shop I did install all new drum units and swapped out the ITB with one that has much less mileage on it. Perhaps it was not cold enough or the humidity was higher then for this problem to surface. I did not reset the meter for the ITB. Would that make any difference? It is strange that I have a IR2880 in my shop with the ITB from the IR3080 in it and it has not displayed this problem. It has DCON v 23.01. I wonder if I should put the original black drum unit and ITB back into the IR3080?
  • northernlife
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    • Sep 2011
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    #2
    Re: Canon IR3080I Insert drum cartridge message

    You can try ripping the ITB apart and cleaning all the transfer rollers, bushings and contact springs/plates. I've had maybe 20% luck with doing that and the rest I had to change the ITB assembly. Funny this is I'll take that old ITB and put it into our shop machines and they work just fine.

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    • bartman
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      #3
      Re: Canon IR3080I Insert drum cartridge message

      Thank you for the response northernlife. Did you happen to notice if the machines in your shop that you put the old ITB in had the 61.01 DCON version or an older one?

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      • Simons
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        • Jun 2008
        • 490

        #4
        Re: Canon IR3080I Insert drum cartridge message

        Its a common problem. All it is that the ITB gets some toner dust in it. Once you disturb it and replace the drums you get the message! The solution is the blow out the itb or replace it with a new one. Because you disturbed the old one and toner got loose you now have the message too. The quickest easy solution is to spend the money for a new ITB. Bad news I know. Best not to be peeking at those drums unless you have to. There are KB articles about it or a tech pub. Are you at an authorized dealer? All of your other questions about if those matters is NO. Problem is the ITB unit contacts in the back area esp. there are big electrical traces in the ITB. Once toner starts moving around in there it could be very hard to get it out and stop the interference. The problem is not the drum.

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        • bartman
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          Re: Canon IR3080I Insert drum cartridge message

          Thank you Simons. I am a independent and not at a Canon dealer. I can painfully purchase a new ITB but hope the same problem does not reoccur with the older DCON version.

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          • Simons
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            • Jun 2008
            • 490

            #6
            Re: Canon IR3080I Insert drum cartridge message

            Yeah, Sounds like a software upgrade can get rid of the check in the engine. Id do that first! Here is another cause Problem :
            The imageRUNNER is displaying a message to "Insert Drum Cartridge" for black even after a new drum has been installed.


            Solution :
            The problem could be related to a broken, loose, or missing drive drum coupling. In this case the drum drive coupling was dislodged from the black drum drive shaft. This prevented the drum from rotating and caused the machine to display that the drum was not installed.
            Check the big one and the small one below it.
            'Insert Black Drum' Message Does Not Clear

            Problem :
            Replacing the black drum has no effect.

            Solution :
            In several cases replacing the ITB assembly corrected the message.
            The part number for the ITB assembly is FM2-5522-030
            Last edited by Simons; 01-08-2013, 05:59 PM.

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            • Rachid.Akli
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              • Oct 2011
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              #7
              Re: Canon IR3080I Insert drum cartridge message

              Originally posted by bartman
              I did read all the threads on this subject. It looks like I need to upgrade DCON version to 61.01. Does anyone have the latest sst and software version for this machine? Thank you. It is interesting I did not have a problem with this in my shop. While in the shop I did install all new drum units and swapped out the ITB with one that has much less mileage on it. Perhaps it was not cold enough or the humidity was higher then for this problem to surface. I did not reset the meter for the ITB. Would that make any difference? It is strange that I have a IR2880 in my shop with the ITB from the IR3080 in it and it has not displayed this problem. It has DCON v 23.01. I wonder if I should put the original black drum unit and ITB back into the IR3080?

              Hello,
              Before the value of DRM-Life of the drum cartridge reaches 100, the message 'Insert drum cartridge' is wrongly displayed because of Low temperature, low humidity environment (approx. less than 15 deg C/50%). You have not the same issue in your shop because the environment is not the same. Upgrading the DC-CON to the latest version (61.01or more) is the solution to this issue.



              Rachid
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              • bartman
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                #8
                Re: Canon IR3080I Insert drum cartridge message

                Thank you Rachid. I am looking for current sst and system software. I plan on trying that out first.

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                • northernlife
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                  • Sep 2011
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                  #9
                  Re: Canon IR3080I Insert drum cartridge message

                  It's a leakage issue not a firmware issue. We have some all across the board in terms of versions and they all do it. Take the ITB apart and clean the snot out of it and that should take care of your issue.

                  Originally posted by bartman
                  Thank you for the response northernlife. Did you happen to notice if the machines in your shop that you put the old ITB in had the 61.01 DCON version or an older one?

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                  • deaneop
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                    • May 2012
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                    #10
                    Re: Canon IR3080I Insert drum cartridge message

                    Hi,

                    Your problem is most likely a firmware issue had a spate of this fault not so long ago, We upgraded the firmware on our fleet and problem solved.

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                    • jonbonse
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                      • Jun 2009
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                      Re: Canon IR3080I Insert drum cartridge message

                      Hi guys,

                      I know this is an old thread but I was hopeful someone could send over the SST and firmware to fix this issue?

                      Many thanks

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                      • Phil B.
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                        • Jul 2016
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                        #12
                        Re: Canon IR3080I Insert drum cartridge message

                        Originally posted by jonbonse
                        Hi guys,

                        I know this is an old thread but I was hopeful someone could send over the SST and firmware to fix this issue?

                        Many thanks
                        CONTRIBUTORS will always get a better response to their requests.

                        and thanks for digging up a 7 year dead thread! you should have started a new thread of your own!

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                        • jonbonse
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                          Re: Canon IR3080I Insert drum cartridge message

                          Originally posted by Phil B.
                          CONTRIBUTORS will always get a better response to their requests.

                          and thanks for digging up a 7 year dead thread! you should have started a new thread of your own!
                          Thank you for your message.

                          I am now a fellow CONTRIBUTOR!

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                          • tech28
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                            Re: Canon IR3080I Insert drum cartridge message

                            Dude, its the transfer belt, go to your wholesaler and get one whole machine for under 50 bucks and you will have parts for the machine and take care of your problem. Why go around the block to get across the street. Good Luck,

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                            • jonbonse
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                              Re: Canon IR3080I Insert drum cartridge message

                              Originally posted by tech28
                              Dude, its the transfer belt, go to your wholesaler and get one whole machine for under 50 bucks and you will have parts for the machine and take care of your problem. Why go around the block to get across the street. Good Luck,

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