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  • northernlife
    Senior Tech

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    • Sep 2011
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    #16
    Re: Canon IRA C5051 Thermistors

    Originally posted by IkeW0491
    Hey TekCat,

    Do you know where I can get the updated Firmware on this, it might help, worth a try maybe.

    IKE
    First window of service mode you have an updater button. That will flash the machine for you.

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    • IkeW0491
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      • Oct 2013
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      #17
      Re: Canon IRA C5051 Thermistors

      Originally posted by northernlife
      First window of service mode you have an updater button. That will flash the machine for you.
      Hi Northern,

      Thanks for the info.

      One question, will I need an active external internet connection??

      I am not sure if these copiers have internet access or just LAN.

      Thanks

      IKE

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      • northernlife
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        #18
        Re: Canon IRA C5051 Thermistors

        You will indeed need external connectivity in order to flash via CDS. If you need the firmware pm me an ftp or some way to upload the files and I'll do it for ya.

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        • IkeW0491
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          #19
          Re: Canon IRA C5051 Thermistors

          Originally posted by northernlife
          You will indeed need external connectivity in order to flash via CDS. If you need the firmware pm me an ftp or some way to upload the files and I'll do it for ya.
          Thanks Northern,

          Actually it appears that it will reach out and talk to the world.

          Was not sure (at a secure location here ) not everything here has outside the firewall access.

          IKE

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          • IkeW0491
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            #20
            Re: Canon IRA C5051 Thermistors

            OK,

            So tried firmware update and still no go, same issues.

            Will have to wait for the shutter and PCB and hope they can resolve the issues.

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            • IkeW0491
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              #21
              Re: Canon IRA C5051 Thermistors

              Update on issue.

              OK Installed NEW PCB and Shutter.

              Still no joy.

              Turn on machine, Let it come all the way up, Try to print or copy, and it throws E001 - 000, check error codes in Service mode - it shows E001-000 location 05.

              Any other ideas as to what else I can do to fix this problem (Short of a piece of C4 or a stick of Dynamite)

              Thanks for all the help.

              IKE
              Last edited by IkeW0491; 12-02-2013, 10:18 PM. Reason: Clarification

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              • teckat
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                • Jan 2010
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                #22
                Re: Canon IRA C5051 Thermistors

                Originally posted by IkeW0491
                UPDate 99.4 LOL

                OK Installed NEW PCB and Shutter.

                Still no joy.

                Turn on machine, Let it come all the way up, Try to print or copy, and it throws E001 - 000, check error codes in Service mode - it shows E001-000 location 05.

                Any other ideas as to what else I can do to fix this problem (Short of a piece of C4 or a stick of Dynamite)

                Thanks for all the help.

                IKE
                ------------------------------------------------------------------


                what is this update 99.04

                USA is v75.01.01
                **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                • IkeW0491
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                  #23
                  Re: Canon IRA C5051 Thermistors

                  Originally posted by teckat
                  ------------------------------------------------------------------


                  what is this update 99.04

                  USA is v75.01.01

                  Sorry TekCat,

                  That was just a JOKE. I should have just said it was a joke in the comments.

                  It seems like I have been fighting with this thing for ever, so I just said that is was 99.04 update from me on this.

                  Sorry for the confusion.

                  IKE

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                  • teckat
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                    #24
                    Re: Canon IRA C5051 Thermistors

                    Originally posted by IkeW0491
                    Sorry TekCat,

                    That was just a JOKE. I should have just said it was a joke in the comments.

                    It seems like I have been fighting with this thing for ever, so I just said that is was 99.04 update from me on this.

                    Sorry for the confusion.

                    IKE
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                    Check the following in Service Mode: DISPLAY > ANALOG >
                    FIX-C, and Monitor the Temperature at initial Rotation.

                    If the temp is 260 deg C or more, check the Fixing Drive Motor M21.

                    -Replace the Fixing Drive Assembly and the Fixing Motor at the same time. The part numbers are below:


                    Fixing Drive Assembly FM3-5967-000
                    Fixing Motor FK2-7302-000

                    EXAMPLE



                    Make sure the fuser pressure roller bearing holders are/ was not installed backwards

                    **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                    • IkeW0491
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                      #25
                      Re: Canon IRA C5051 Thermistors

                      Thanks for the idea Tekcat.

                      I will check it out tomorrow.

                      Just FYI, the Fuser never even gets warm when the error comes up.

                      I can reach in and it is cold as ice (at least there is no heat in the area of the fuser).

                      Thanks again.

                      IKE

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                      • teckat
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                        #26
                        Re: Canon IRA C5051 Thermistors

                        If the one-way bearing in the fixing drive assembly is slipping and the 26T gear is worn.

                        This will cause the fixing film to not rotate consistently and get too hot. Replacement of the one-way gear assembly FL3-1198-000 and the
                        26T gear FU8-0178-000 could resolve the error code.




                        or as posted before------------AC Driver PCB

                        AC Driver PCB part numbers:
                        iR-ADV C5051,5045 SERIES 120V # FM3-6053-000.
                        **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                        • IkeW0491
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                          #27
                          Re: Canon IRA C5051 Thermistors

                          Originally posted by teckat
                          --------------------------------

                          Check the following in Service Mode: DISPLAY > ANALOG >
                          FIX-C, and Monitor the Temperature at initial Rotation.

                          If the temp is 260 deg C or more, check the Fixing Drive Motor M21.

                          -Replace the Fixing Drive Assembly and the Fixing Motor at the same time. The part numbers are below:


                          Fixing Drive Assembly FM3-5967-000
                          Fixing Motor FK2-7302-000

                          EXAMPLE



                          Make sure the fuser pressure roller bearing holders are/ was not installed backwards

                          Hi Tekcat,

                          I checked it 2 times, temp never goes above 28C on fix c, and never goes above 200C on Fix E and Fix E2.

                          Anything else I might try.

                          thanks so much for the ideas,

                          I never have easy issues , lol

                          IKE

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                          • teckat
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                            #28
                            Re: Canon IRA C5051 Thermistors

                            Not too much left


                            as posted before------------AC Driver PCB

                            AC Driver PCB part numbers:
                            iR-ADV C5051,5045 SERIES 120V # FM3-6053-000.
                            **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                            • IkeW0491
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                              • Oct 2013
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                              #29
                              Re: Canon IRA C5051 Thermistors

                              Thanks for al the help Tekcat,

                              I will check the pressure roller (although I think it was installed right) the copier was working for over a month after that was put in, but could still be that.

                              I will also check the AC Driver PCB.

                              Are there particular voltages I need to look for?

                              Thanks again.

                              IKE

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                              • spectraindo
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                                • May 2008
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                                #30
                                Re: Canon IRA C5051 Thermistors

                                Are the thermistors readings the same as on Teckats foto ?
                                If one indicates a low temperature I asume it is not reaching the DC controller -> check the cabling.
                                A disconnected thermistor will cause overheating causing E001.
                                The heaters of this machine only come on when it is printing, so go to Service Mode to read the temperatures and print something.
                                All the three thermistors should indicate a rise in temperature, if not then the one which does not rise is the cause.

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