Ok ok! I know this has been asked before. What hard drives can be used as a replacement instead of buying one from canon { brand/ type/ gigs etc. }
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Depends what model. Older models I used Seagates,but on those models hd format ift files were not encrypted and non-Canon hdds could be used if you modified the ift file. Newer ones, its encrypted so you have to get one from Canon or Nationwide Repair. -
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what is the starting models for encrypted drives?Comment
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Don't suppose anyone can give all/some of the hard drive make/model numbers that fit the IR3225 series?
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the HDFormat.ift file is encrypted (not viewable) for xtra supported HDD's
u need OEM
FM3-5634-000-
CANON HARD DISK DRIVE SATA 2.5 160GB
Used (iR3225/3230/3235/3245 Series)
[EXCEPT for JP,CN,KR,TW]
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HDD's >
FM3-5642-000 for CN,KR,TW
FM3-4403-000 for JP **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**
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40g barracuda drives you will need system software to partition. first single partition then you can partition other two for the 105 and 8500 onlyComment
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Hi teckat
Thanks for the response.
What I'm after is the hard drive make/model eg. Canon WM2-5216-000: Hitachi 20gig - HTS541020G9AT00
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imageRUNNER 3245 / 3235 / 3230 / 3225
Only Canon HDD are supported, because the drives come pre-loaded with the BIOS Software to boot the machine. (SEE PART #'s below)
HDD on this series should not be formatted, unless a HDD Data Encryption Kit-B5 is being installed in the machine.
The installation instructions for the Encryption Kit do tell you to format the HDD. The instruction are correct; and it is ok to format the HDD, only during the installation of the HDD Data Encryption Kit-B5
Note:
Be sure that the Encryption Board was installed in the machine prior to formatting the HDD. When the Encryption Board is installed in the machine and the machine is turned on an E602 will occur. At this point, turn the machine off and power back up in Download Mode. Next, format the drive and load the system software**Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**Comment
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Thanks for that. Are you saying that the IR3225 series are different to the IR3025 or IR5065/75 series as we have been successful in putting old computer laptop drives in them albeit using the make/model of hard drive specific to those machines?Comment
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imageRUNNER 3245 / 3235 / 3230 / 3225
The HDD is a SATA =has some data already written to it from Canon/
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guess u can try the (WM2-5235-000) (FK2-7429-000) PATA HDD drive in imageRUNNER 3245 / 3235 / 3230 / 3225
it's getting the iR3225 Series HDFormat.file to recognize the PATA HDD 
believe the Holder is different for SATA HDD
Believe u can use the SATA HDD Unit >FM3-5634-000- (comes with holder bracket) in the series > iR 4570 & 3045 series
imageRUNNER 3245 / 3235 / 3230 / 3225 copiers are based on the same platform.
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SATA_HDD.pdf
Adaption of the SATA Hard Disk Drive for the imageRUNNER 3025/ 3030/ 3035/ 3045 Series
Old type PATA HDD (2.5-inch) = (FK2-7429)
New Type SATA HDD (2.5-inch) = (FK4-1729)
SATA set (New Parts)
- SATA SET (2.5-inch HDD/ without encryption): FM1-C895
- SATA SET (2.5-inch HDD/ with encryption): FM1-C892
PATA-SATA PCB assembly
- New PCB for the SATA HDD (2.5-inch HDD/ without encryption): FM1-C896
- New PCB for the SATA HDD (2.5-inch HDD/ with encryption): FM1-C893
The switch to SATA HDD (2.5-inch) as a service part is carried out for a wide variety of products. Even the models belonging to the same product series, the necessary service parts vary depending on the type (i.e., old or new) of the models.
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Adaption of the SATA Hard Disk Drive for the imageRUNNER 9070/ 105+/ 85+ Series.
SATA Hard Disk Drive for the imageRUNNER 9070_105+_85+ Series..pdf
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Adaption of the SATA Hard Disk Drive for the imageRUNNER 5050/ 5055/ 5065/ 5075 Series.
SATA Hard Disk Drive for the imageRUNNER 5050_5055_5065_5075 Series..pdf
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Adaption of the SATA Hard Disk Drive for the imageRUNNER 2200/ 2800/ 3300 Series.
SATA Hard Disk Drive for the imageRUNNER 2200_2800_3300 Series..pdf**Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**Comment
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Adaption of the SATA Hard Disk Drive for the imageRUNNER 3025/ 3030/ 3035/ 3045 Series
Old type PATA HDD (2.5-inch) = (FK2-7429)
New Type SATA HDD (2.5-inch) = (FK4-1729)
SATA set (New Parts)
- SATA SET (2.5-inch HDD/ without encryption): FM1-C895
- SATA SET (2.5-inch HDD/ with encryption): FM1-C892
PATA-SATA PCB assembly
- New PCB for the SATA HDD (2.5-inch HDD/ without encryption): FM1-C896
- New PCB for the SATA HDD (2.5-inch HDD/ with encryption): FM1-C893
The switch to SATA HDD (2.5-inch) as a service part is carried out for a wide variety of products. Even the models belonging to the same product series, the necessary service parts vary depending on the type (i.e., old or new) of the models.
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Adaption of the SATA Hard Disk Drive for the imageRUNNER 9070/ 105+/ 85+ Series.
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Adaption of the SATA Hard Disk Drive for the imageRUNNER 5050/ 5055/ 5065/ 5075 Series.
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Adaption of the SATA Hard Disk Drive for the imageRUNNER 2200/ 2800/ 3300 Series.
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Replacing a HDD in an iR is not rocket science.
I have done hundreds, of PATA & SATA-
U either use the OEM one, search Google for those old PATA supported ones or check printers HDFormat file (if not encryption protected) for a list of supported HDD's.
The HDD's need to first be formatted inside printer using Format file listed in models firmware using SST.
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HDD Not Found
The SST provides the ability to properly format new hard drives or reformat corrupted hard drives in Canon ImageRUNNERs.
Sometimes you will try to format a drive and will receive a message advising you that the unit has an invalid disk installed > This message indicates that the ImageRUNNER has a non-standard (Read: Non-Canon) HDD installed and the SST does not recognize it.
When you load the firmware for a Canon device into the SST part of the information provided is a list of valid hard drive designations for the model. This list of HDD's not only specifies the name of each valid drive type but also the hardware specifications such as number of read/write heads, platters, surfaces, segment sizes and other technical data describing the features and capacity of the HDD to the SST.
Canon updates these lists when they use different forms of drives in the different models of copiers and when you install a more recent version of the firmware for a model into your SST you are also updating this list of HDD's.
Encrypted HDDFiles
Originally these HDD Descriptor Files were regular text files which could be edited to add new HDD formats when necessary.
-More recently Canon has started encrypting the files to prevent them being editted. As such, newer model Canon ImageRUNNER's will require that authentic Canon HDD's be installed should they require replacement.
Generic drives may not be on the list of supported drives for the SST and Canon will not release a list of supported drives.
Examples of Editable vs. Encrypted files would be:
Editable: iR2200/2800/3300 iRC3100 iRC5800/6800
Encrypted: iR2270/2870/3370 iRC3380 iRC4580/5180
HDD Descriptor File
This is the file which contains the descriptor information for each HDD registered fot he Canon model. The naming of these files is important to understand as you will need to track these files down when you want to format non-standard HDD's.
iRModel-XXxx####-HDFormat.ift
iRModel:=This will be the model designation for the unit. iR2200 for example. iRXXXX files are encrypted.
XX: = A double X appears in this position for all such files.
xx: = This is the language designator for the firmware files. Since the HDD file is universal this is always xx.
####: This is a version number which will correspond to the firmware version number you see in the SST.
HDFormat: = The type of file which is always HDFormat for the HDD Descriptor file.
ift: = The Windows file type. This is used for all Canon Firmware files.
Modifying the HDD Descriptor
If the HDFormat file for the model you wish to format is Editable you can create a new entry in the file to allow it to support your hard drive.
You will need to determine the model of the HDD you are trying to format to begin. The model will have been displayed in the error message fromt he SST. it is also printed on the outside of most HDD's.
Steps to Modify the File
1. Find the Correct HDD Descriptor File
2. Disable Read-Only protection
3. Locate Similar HDD Descriptor
4. Create Copy of Descriptor and Modify
5. Increment Supported HDD Counter
6. Save Modified File
7. Re-Enable Read-Only Protection
1. Find the Correct HDD Descriptor File
Search the hard drive of your PC for *.ift files. You will be provided with a list of these files. Find the apropriate HDFormat file in the list. The list will be similar to the example below. The example provided is for an iR2200 and is version 13.
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2. Disable Read-only Protection
The HDFormat files can be set to READ-ONLY which would prevent you from saving your
revised file at the end of this procedure. Right-click on the file you will be modifying in the list and click on the word Properties in the menu that appears.
If the Read-Only box is checked, uncheck it and click theOKbutton. If it isn't checked you can just click on theOKbutton without making any changes.
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3. Locate SimilarHDD Descriptor
Open the file in Notepad and scroll down to the HDD Dscriptors.You need to locate an
entry in the list of valid HDD's that is similar to the one you need to configure to support your
drive. The more similar the better.Go through the entire list and locate the best match possible.
Myexample drive is to be a Toshiba MK8025GAS drive. I have located an entry for the
Toshiba MK2023GAS drive which is very similar.
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4. Create Copy of Descriptorand Modify
Highlight the block of text related to the HDD Dscriptor you have chosen and copy it
using Ctrl-C. Click the mouse on the blank line below the entry and press Ctl-V to create a new
copy. Make certain there is a single blank line before and after the new entry.
Edit the new entry to match your drive. in this case i changed 2023 to 8025 creating an
entry in the table for my MK8025GAS drive.
5. Increment SupportedHDD Counter
Scroll down to the bottom of the list of supported HDD's (Note: Not the bottom of the file.) and find the entry for the number of drives supported. As you have added a new drive you must increment this file by 1. If it was 52, you change it to 53.
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6. Save the Modified File
Click on File and Save to save your changes.
7. Enable Read-only Protection
If you had unchecked the Read-Only box in the HDFormat file's properties in step 2, you will now open the file's properties again and check the Read-only box to protect the file.
Now that the new entry is in the HDFormat file you should be able to format the drive on your ImageRUNNER using the SST.Last edited by teckat; 10-23-2014, 09:43 PM.**Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**Comment
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