IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

[thadwald]

I am trying to print a booklet, with a printed cover, folded, and saddle stitched, on a Image Runner Advance C5030. I am printing from a Mac.

I can get it to print a stitched booklet. I can also get it to include a cover from the multipurpose tray. While the printer will slow down and pause to heat up the fuser for the heavier paper, the printer refuses to print anything on the said cover. On my older printer with a Fiery server, i can specify which covers are printed. Where can i find this option in the mac print driver?

[teckat]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

I am trying to print a booklet, with a printed cover, folded, and saddle stitched, on a Image Runner Advance C5030. I am printing from a Mac.

I can get it to print a stitched booklet. I can also get it to include a cover from the multipurpose tray. While the printer will slow down and pause to heat up the fuser for the heavier paper, the printer refuses to print anything on the said cover. On my older printer with a Fiery server, i can specify which covers are printed. Where can i find this option in the mac print driver?

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Cover Pages
In the Cover Pages menu, you can set Front Cover printing and Back Cover printing.

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PRINTING FROM Macintosh.pdf

[thadwald]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

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Cover Pages
In the Cover Pages menu, you can set Front Cover printing and Back Cover printing.

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It seems my driver does not have those options. I am running Yosemite and I have the latest UFRII driver from the Canon USA website (version 10.06.00)
Here's what I see:

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I found some cover options under the paper source menu. From here I can specify the source of back and front covers, and I can specify which covers are printed. However, when I do this, the booklet option under the finishing menu disables.

When I first specify booklet under finishing, it allows me to pick a front cover but the "Print On [back/front cover]" options are disabled, as is the "Back Cover" option. I presume that the back cover disables because the back and front cover are physically the same sheet of paper.

What else can I try?

[teckat]

[teckat]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

: How to Print a Booklet from Mac OS X
=:O
How a booklet is printed from the Mac OS X driver*


:-))
The Mac OS X printer driver

Follow the steps below to get a booklet to output properly.

*Note this document will show how to get the booklet to print from Adobe InDesign, Adobe Reader, and Microsoft Word. Other applications used for printing booklets should be very similar to one of these.

*Applications that take total control of the page layout like Microsoft Publisher and Adobe InDesign will not work if the document is designed as a booklet inside the application, so select the setting for single pages in the application.

*This document assumes that the imageRUNNER ADVANCE print driver is already installed and the Printer Utility has been run to get the correct printer configuration and paper settings.

I. Adobe InDesign

1. In Adobe InDesign, make sure that when the document is created, the checkbox for Facing Pages is unchecked .

2. The InDesign Pages tool should look be a simple list.

3. Once the document is created and it is ready for printing, Click File, and then Print. (Do not select Print Booklet.) This will bring up the InDesign print interface. To get to the print driver interface, click on the Printer button at the bottom.

4. This is the print Driver interface. Leave everything default here and click on the drop down menu that shows Layout and select Finishing.

5. Select the Print Style drop down menu and choose Booklet Printing.

6. From the Booklet... button the Right binding or Left binding can be chosen; and from the Saddle Stitch Setting the choices are None; Fold, Fold + Saddle Stitch. These choices do depend on the finisher installed.

7. Finally, click Print in the print driver and then click Print in the InDesign interface and the document will be sent to the printer.

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II. Adobe Acrobat

1. Open a file in Adobe Acrobat; click File, then Print. To get to the print driver interface, click on the Printer button at the bottom.

2. Click on the drop down menu that shows Layout and select Finishing.

3. Click on the 2-sided Printing drop down menu and choose Booklet Printing.

4. Here the booklet can be set up using the Booklet and Saddle Stitch Settings. Right binding or Left binding can be chosen; and from the Saddle Stitch Setting the choices are None; Fold, Fold + Saddle Stitch. These choices do depend on the finisher installed.

5. Once the Booklet settings are configured, click Print to leave the driver interface and click Print again in the Acrobat interface and the booklet will be sent to the printer.

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III. Microsoft Word

1. With a document open in Microsoft Word, click File and Print to open the driver interface.

2. Click the drop down button labeled Copies & Pages and select Finishing.

3. Click on the 2-sided Printing drop down menu and choose Booklet Printing. Set up the booklet with the Booklet and Saddle Stitch Settings. Right binding or Left binding can be chosen; and from the Saddle Stitch Setting the choices are None; Fold, Fold + Saddle Stitch. These choices do depend on the finisher installed.

4. Click Print to send the booklet to the printer.

[teckat]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

What else can I try***

Do u have an imagePass B1 connected_?
If so u need to use a driver for it__

Macintosh OS X 10.9 (Mavericks) Driver for the imagePASS-B1 v1.01
imagePASS-B1 V1.01 PPD Installer with Plug-in for Macintosh OS X v10.9. It also supports Macintosh OS X v10.6, v10.7, and v10.8.


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These are for printer without an imagePass
UFRII_v10.06.00_Mac.zip
UFRII v10.06.00 Printer Driver for Mac OS X supports; Intel: Mac OS X v10.5.8 to Mac OSX v10.10 IMPORTANT NOTE: If you have installed a prior version of the printer driver, after installing the new version of the printer driver, delete and reinstall the printer in [Print & Fax] or [Print & Scan] of [System Preferences]


PS_v04.04.00_Mac.zip
PS v04.04.00 Printer Driver for Mac OS X supports; Intel Mac OS X v10.5.8 to Mac OS X v10.10 IMPORTANT NOTE: If you have installed a prior version of the printer driver, after installing the new version of the printer driver, delete and reinstall the printer in [Print & Fax] or [Print & Scan] of [System Preferences

[thadwald]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

What else can I try***

Do u have an imagePass B1 connected_?
If so u need to use a driver for it__
...

I do not have a Fiery print server.


I have tried the following on 3 different computers, all of which are running Yosemite. Two of them are using the Yosemite UFRII driver from the USA Canon website. One of them is using the driver that presumably comes with the OS. I cannot discern a difference between the two drivers. I have also tried it on several machines (C7055, C7065, C5030).

I have since run into additional issues with getting the driver to work in OS X 10.10 (Yosemite)

First of all; what does seem to work:

I can make two sizes of center-fold saddle-stitched booklets;
1. letter-size page on tabloid paper
2. statement-size paper on letter paper

If it is not immediately obvious to you, each of these sizes are standard sizes per the printer's list of standard paper sizes, and each page size is half of its corresponding paper size. It does not make sense to make folded booklets any other way.

I can also print anything IF my paper size is one of the standard paper sizes on the printer.

I still have not figured out how to make it print on a separate cover in booklet mode, as I detailed above.

In addition:
I cannot print ANYTHING with this driver from this OS that does not use a standard paper size. I know how to add irregular paper sizes via the printer panel. I also know how to set up irregular paper sizes from the OS via the print driver or application page setup menu. On a regular (non-booklet) print, using irregular paper size, it will shift the image into the corner, cutting off about 3/4 of the image at the page margin.

I cannot print a legal or a tabloid oversized(12x18) center-fold booklet, both of which are advertised in the printer spec sheet. Each of these sizes require setting up the document as an irregular page size. When an irregular page size is selected, the booklet option is disabled in the print driver.

I suppose I could try to install an earlier driver but I am quite hesitant to do so because I know that OSX10.10 changed the way applications are allowed to access the system(sandboxing), which broke driver compatibility for many printers. For example, printing from a browser usually doesn't work with a pre-osX10.10 driver.

[vigour]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

print your document as single sided letter size to the mailbox and run it from there, you will find booklet in the special features (or something like that) on the lower right corner of the control panel

[teckat]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

I know all about Paper Sizes ! > Booklets> Saddle Stitched> Positions

I can make two sizes of center-fold saddle-stitched booklets;
1. letter-size page on tabloid paper
2. statement-size paper on letter paper

u mean Fold Letter R paper to statement size
"that's Obvious"

As a test> with Legal paper loaded in cassette tray> can u walk up to printer> set four Legal docs in feeder tray> go select Booklet Finishing on panel > & that size , to make a test run from just control panel printing.

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I cannot print a legal or a tabloid over-sized (12x18) center-fold booklet, both of which are advertised in the printer spec sheet.

Booklet Finisher C-1/ support sizes
Paper size A3, B4, A4R, 279mm x 432mm (11 x 17), LGL, LTRR/ 305mm x 457mm (12 x 18)

I cannot print a legal or a tabloid over sized (12x18) center-fold booklet, both of which are advertised in the printer spec sheet.
Each of these sizes require setting up the document as an irregular page size. When an irregular page size is selected, the booklet option is disabled in the print driver.

The Yosemite UFRII Driver ??
Does the Driver Device Preview menu > see/show the correct C5030 set up with Booklet Finisher C-1 OPTION shown & listed


EXAMPLES SHOWN BELOW

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OPTIONS.jpg

[thadwald]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

print your document as single sided letter size to the mailbox and run it from there, you will find booklet in the special features (or something like that) on the lower right corner of the control panel

I can already print a booklet straight from the driver if my booklet page size is letter. It prints on tabloid paper. I am also able to do this by printing to the mailbox and then printing from mailbox and selecting booklet at the printer, as per your suggestion.

When I print a half-legal (7 x 8.5) document to the mailbox, I no longer have the booklet option when printing from the mailbox.

Edit: HEY! this solves one of my issues; namely the problem with being able to print on the cover. Thanks.. This should serve as a decent workaround.

[teckat]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

In the Print Driver Properties, under the Device Settings tab, make sure to Get Device Status

If in Device Settings u do not see Booklet Finisher C1

U need to reload your Printer Firmware


Keep it Simple

[thadwald]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

I know all about Paper Sizes ! > Booklets> Saddle Stitched> Positions


u mean Fold Letter R paper to statement size
"that's Obvious"

Yes, that's exactly what I mean.

As a test> with Legal paper loaded in cassette tray> can u walk up to printer> set four Legal docs in feeder tray> go select Booklet Finishing on panel > & that size , to make a test run from just control panel printing.

Yup. I can do that. It rotates and shrinks each legal sheet to fit on one page.

As a workaround, I can use imposition software and have it just fold and stitch the booklet, instead of using the booklet feature.

Booklet printing on legal paper requires a custom document size (if you don't want to have the printer scale your print, that is) . The printer will not print a booklet with a custom document size. I can print the custom size document to mailbox. When I print from there, the booklet option is disabled. This is strange


I found a solution to straight printing custom document sizes. It seems to work when I first store to mailbox and then print from mailbox.

The Yosemite UFRII Driver ??
Does the Driver Device Preview menu > see/show the correct C5030 set up with Booklet Finisher C-1 OPTION shown & listed

Yes
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And Yes
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[thadwald]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

In the Print Driver Properties, under the Device Settings tab, make sure to Get Device Status

If in Device Settings u do not see Booklet Finisher C1

U need to reload your Printer Firmware


Keep it Simple

"Print Driver Properties>Device settings tab>Get Device Status" is done from Windows.

It works, nonetheless:
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[vigour]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

I have heard 5030 techs say it does not do LEGAL booklets.
5045 and higher will do legal booklets.
Just curious, since you have imposition software, why do you use something else ?

[teckat]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

I have heard 5030 techs say it does not do LEGAL booklets.
5045 and higher will do legal booklets.
Just curious, since you have imposition software, why do you use something else ?

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OS X Yosemite

Add the printer again to create a new printer queue,

Printers & Scanners preferences (choose Apple menu > System Preferences, then click Printers & Scanners)
then delete the old printer queue.

Try to get Device Status again




IMPORTANT NOTE: on OS X Yosemite UFRII v10.06.00 Printer Driver

If you have installed a prior version of the printer driver, after installing the new version of the printer driver, delete and reinstall the printer in [Print & Fax] or [Print & Scan] of [System Preferences]




Saddle Stitch Tray
16 Sheets (14 lb. Bond to 20 lb. Bond) (12" x 18", 11" x 17", Legal, Letter-R)
10 Sheets (22 lb. Bond to 28 lb. Bond) (12" x 18", 11" x 17", Legal, Letter-R)Paper Capacity of Saddle-Stitch Mode: 25 Booklets (5-sheet Booklets)




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