How do I find the % of iron in Canon Cartridge 125 for imageCLASS LBP6030w?

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  • DDPloogPDX
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    • Apr 2015
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    How do I find the % of iron in Canon Cartridge 125 for imageCLASS LBP6030w?

    I'm trying to print decals for mugs that I can fire in a kiln. I was told to buy a Canon imageCLASS LBP6030w because it has just black ink cartridge, not CMYK like my huge expensive Epson! But I have had nothing turn out on what is supposed to be a simple, 'anyone can do this' process. Someone asked me what percentage of iron is in the ink. I guess that is important as it is what is left when everything else is burnt away in the kiln.
    I can't find the % listed anywhere.
    I've spent the last 5 days firing mug after mug and nothing is working. Each firing takes at least 6 hrs. I'm so close to trashing the whole thing! Does anyone know where I can find the information about the iron content?
    Even better, does anyone print waterslide transfers on their laser printer and have them work?!!
    Thanks!
    D.D.
  • allan
    RTFM!!

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    #2
    Re: How do I find the % of iron in Canon Cartridge 125 for imageCLASS LBP6030w?




    Just an idea
    Whatever

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    • Iowatech
      Not a service manager

      2,500+ Posts
      • Dec 2009
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      #3
      Re: How do I find the % of iron in Canon Cartridge 125 for imageCLASS LBP6030w?

      You might try searching here:
      Canon U.S.A. : Office Equipment
      The MSDS is at least a good starting point to see what's going on, anyway.

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      • nmfaxman
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        Re: How do I find the % of iron in Canon Cartridge 125 for imageCLASS LBP6030w?

        It also crosses over to an HP laser.
        Check their website too.
        Why do they call it common sense?

        If it were common, wouldn't everyone have it?

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        • teckat
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          Re: How do I find the % of iron in Canon Cartridge 125 for imageCLASS LBP6030w?

          Originally posted by DDPloogPDX
          I'm trying to print decals for mugs that I can fire in a kiln. I was told to buy a Canon imageCLASS LBP6030w because it has just black ink cartridge, not CMYK like my huge expensive Epson! But I have had nothing turn out on what is supposed to be a simple, 'anyone can do this' process. Someone asked me what percentage of iron is in the ink. I guess that is important as it is what is left when everything else is burnt away in the kiln.
          I can't find the % listed anywhere.
          I've spent the last 5 days firing mug after mug and nothing is working. Each firing takes at least 6 hrs. I'm so close to trashing the whole thing! Does anyone know where I can find the information about the iron content?
          Even better, does anyone print waterslide transfers on their laser printer and have them work?!!
          Thanks!
          D.D.
          ********************



          U mean the 725 cartridge_??

          LBP6030W

          Styrene acrylate copolymer =45-55%
          Ferrite = 35-45%
          Wax= 5-10%

          Cartridge 725
          i-SENSYS LBP6000
          i-SENSYS LBP6000B
          i-SENSYS LBP6030
          i-SENSYS LBP6030B
          i-SENSYS LBP6030w
          i-SENSYS MF3010
          **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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          • teckat
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            Re: How do I find the % of iron in Canon Cartridge 125 for imageCLASS LBP6030w?

            HP CE285A MICR Toner Cartridge | Clover Technologies Group

            This has the 125
            (Material) Safety Data Sheet PDF

            Styrene-Acrylate Copolymer = 40-55%
            Magnetite = 40-50%
            Ethylene Propylene Copolymer = >3%
            Ester Wax = >3%
            Silica =>3%
            Metal Complex Dye = >1%
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            • DDPloogPDX
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              • Apr 2015
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              Re: How do I find the % of iron in Canon Cartridge 125 for imageCLASS LBP6030w?

              Originally posted by teckat
              ********************



              U mean the 725 cartridge_??

              LBP6030W

              Styrene acrylate copolymer =45-55%
              Ferrite = 35-45%
              Wax= 5-10%

              Cartridge 725
              i-SENSYS LBP6000
              i-SENSYS LBP6000B
              i-SENSYS LBP6030
              i-SENSYS LBP6030B
              i-SENSYS LBP6030w
              i-SENSYS MF3010
              The cartridge that they sold me to use in the printer Canon imageCLASS LBP6030 says Cartridge 125 on the box. I haven't used it yet as I am still using the ink cartridge that came with the printer. If this is the same as #125, could you please tell me what of that list means iron? I am trying to use this laser printer to create fire-on decals for porcelian mugs. There needs to be at least 40% iron so that as the other chemicals melt away in the kiln, the iron will leave a sepia color embeded in the glaze of the mug.
              It's not working and I can't figure out why. That's why I'm trying to find the iron amount. Maybe this printer or the ink that comes with it doesn't have enough iron in it.

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              • DDPloogPDX
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2015
                • 5

                #8
                Re: How do I find the % of iron in Canon Cartridge 125 for imageCLASS LBP6030w?

                Originally posted by teckat
                HP CE285A MICR Toner Cartridge | Clover Technologies Group

                This has the 125
                (Material) Safety Data Sheet PDF

                Styrene-Acrylate Copolymer = 40-55%
                Magnetite = 40-50%
                Ethylene Propylene Copolymer = >3%
                Ester Wax = >3%
                Silica =>3%
                Metal Complex Dye = >1%
                Yike! None of that looks like iron to me. Is any of it iron? I've been struggling to get this to work and it's failing time and time again.
                If anyone knows what of those chemicals is another name for iron, please tell me.

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                • DDPloogPDX
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 5

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                  Re: How do I find the % of iron in Canon Cartridge 125 for imageCLASS LBP6030w?

                  Originally posted by allan



                  Just an idea
                  Thank you. I've thought of switching over to sublimation printing, but I just can't afford a whole new system yet.

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                  • allan
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                    Re: How do I find the % of iron in Canon Cartridge 125 for imageCLASS LBP6030w?

                    There are cheaper machines just for mugs.


                    Whatever

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                    • teckat
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                      Re: How do I find the % of iron in Canon Cartridge 125 for imageCLASS LBP6030w?

                      Originally posted by DDPloogPDX
                      Yike! None of that looks like iron to me. Is any of it iron? I've been struggling to get this to work and it's failing time and time again.
                      If anyone knows what of those chemicals is another name for iron, please tell me.
                      The single-component toner mainly consists of magnetite and resin binder and is held to the cylinder by magnetic
                      attraction.



                      Magnetite
                      Materials for one-component toner in copiers and printers

                      Magnetite is an important raw material for magnetic toner.

                      What makes toner particles cling to the OPC Drum and paper/ media in the process of Electrophotographic printing?

                      The obvious answer could only be the
                      magnetite integrated into the toner formulation that makes EP printing possible.

                      Magnetite
                      compose of very minute iron particle or particles that are mixed with toner powder in the course of manufacturing. This gives laser printer toner the ability to respond to varying electrical potential charged into the developer (magnetic) roller that dictates the degree of print density. The greater the electrical potential directed at the magnetic roller, the greater the density of toner powder coming from the laser toner cartridge is dispensed into the OPC Drum surface. Consequently, this results to finer print quality.

                      Iron Oxide Pigment / Magnetite
                      Many toners incorporate the use of iron oxide pigment or magnetite that are sub-micron in size. Iron oxide is included in large proportion in magnetic mono
                      component toners and is included to about 30 – 40% in such toners.
                      Magnetite is also used in some dual component toners but for a different reason than in magnetic mono component toners.
                      The latter type of toner is used on its own as a single element in the development system. The development unit has at its heart a magnetic development sleeve and the iron oxide in the toner imparts intrinsic ferro magnetic characteristic in the toner needed for the toner to be transported to the development zone by this sleeve.
                      In the dual component system, the toner is mixed with a ferro magnetic carrier that transports it to the development zone by way of a magnetic developer sleeve. The Iron oxide in the toner is to prevent dusting and aid in cleaning.
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                      • DDPloogPDX
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 5

                        #12
                        Re: How do I find the % of iron in Canon Cartridge 125 for imageCLASS LBP6030w?

                        Originally posted by teckat
                        The single-component toner mainly consists of magnetite and resin binder and is held to the cylinder by magnetic
                        attraction.



                        Magnetite
                        Materials for one-component toner in copiers and printers

                        Magnetite is an important raw material for magnetic toner.

                        What makes toner particles cling to the OPC Drum and paper/ media in the process of Electrophotographic printing?

                        The obvious answer could only be the
                        magnetite integrated into the toner formulation that makes EP printing possible.

                        Magnetite
                        compose of very minute iron particle or particles that are mixed with toner powder in the course of manufacturing. This gives laser printer toner the ability to respond to varying electrical potential charged into the developer (magnetic) roller that dictates the degree of print density. The greater the electrical potential directed at the magnetic roller, the greater the density of toner powder coming from the laser toner cartridge is dispensed into the OPC Drum surface. Consequently, this results to finer print quality.

                        Iron Oxide Pigment / Magnetite
                        Many toners incorporate the use of iron oxide pigment or magnetiteMagnetite is also used in some dual component toners but for a different reason than in magnetic mono component toners.
                        The latter type of toner is used on its own as a single element in the development system. The development unit has at its heart a magnetic development sleeve and the iron oxide in the toner imparts intrinsic ferro magnetic characteristic in the toner needed for the toner to be transported to the development zone by this sleeve.
                        In the dual component system, the toner is mixed with a ferro magnetic carrier that transports it to the development zone by way of a magnetic developer sleeve. The Iron oxide in the toner is to prevent dusting and aid in cleaning.
                        Thank you so much! This is great. Now I know it's not my printer that is screwing up the process. I'll go back to the decals, the kiln or the mugs
                        Again, thank all of you for your help.
                        D.D.

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