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  • kalimero777
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2015
    • 5
    #1

    canon image press C1

    I'm the first time now and I'm not sure if I'm in the right place to write questions.
    I have a canon image press c1 with ceramic toners and my problem is that showing a error000002-486, in the press greyscale were lost Grayscale now are brownish mess, if anyone can help me, thanks in advance
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    • teckat
      Field Supervisor

      Site Contributor
      10,000+ Posts
      • Jan 2010
      • 16083
      #2
      Re: canon image press C1

      Originally posted by kalimero777
      I'm the first time now and I'm not sure if I'm in the right place to write questions.
      I have a canon image press c1 with ceramic toners and my problem is that showing a error000002-486, in the press greyscale were lost Grayscale now are brownish mess, if anyone can help me, thanks in advance
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      - Data from the Patch Image Scan Sensor (PS3) (performed sheet-to-sheet)
      The patch image scan sensor measures toner image formed in the drum, and based on the data collected
      the amount of toner supply is adjusted so that the over all density will get close to the target density.
      - Data from the ATR Sensor (PS7) (detects every 8 document output of color print on A4 paper)
      The ATR sensor detects the patch image density and the developer (toner and carrier) in the developing
      assembly cylinder of each color. If the results fall outside of the target density range, toner supply target
      will be either increased or decreased.



      u mean

      E020-0486
      xx=01:Y, xx=02:M, xx=03: C, xx=04:K


      xx86 At patch detection, the difference between the detected value of the patch image read sensor and the reference
      value of the base (drum surface) of the patch image sensor is 30 or less.

      Turn off and then on the main power.
      Inspect/Replace patch image read sensor.
      Inspect/Replace patch-detecting shutter.--
      1. Turn the main power switch OFF/ON
      2. Check the SL8 movement, that opens and closes patch sensing shutter, in Service Mode.
      COPIER>FUNCTION>PART-CHK>SL
      Specify a solenoid to be checked. (Range: 1 to 15)
      Operation method:
      1) Select this item.
      2) Enter the code of a solenoid using numeric keys. (8. SL8: Patch detection shutter SL)
      3) Press the OK key.
      4) Press SL-ON and check the operation
      SL-ON
      1) Select this item and press the OK key. ON/OFF operation is repeated in the following
      pattern.
      ON for 0.5 seconds --> OFF for 5 seconds --> ON for 0.5 seconds --> OFF for 5 seconds --
      > OFF

      ALSO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Try watching the turret movement, see if sometimes it would stop at different positions, even for the same color.
      May need to Replace the Rotary Motor Unit / FM2-2641-000
      **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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        • Benjamin98
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Mar 2015
          • 89
          #3
          Re: canon image press C1

          Originally posted by teckat
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          - Data from the Patch Image Scan Sensor (PS3) (performed sheet-to-sheet)
          The patch image scan sensor measures toner image formed in the drum, and based on the data collected
          the amount of toner supply is adjusted so that the over all density will get close to the target density.
          - Data from the ATR Sensor (PS7) (detects every 8 document output of color print on A4 paper)
          The ATR sensor detects the patch image density and the developer (toner and carrier) in the developing
          assembly cylinder of each color. If the results fall outside of the target density range, toner supply target
          will be either increased or decreased.



          u mean

          E020-0486
          xx=01:Y, xx=02:M, xx=03: C, xx=04:K


          xx86 At patch detection, the difference between the detected value of the patch image read sensor and the reference
          value of the base (drum surface) of the patch image sensor is 30 or less.

          Turn off and then on the main power.
          Inspect/Replace patch image read sensor.
          Inspect/Replace patch-detecting shutter.--
          1. Turn the main power switch OFF/ON
          2. Check the SL8 movement, that opens and closes patch sensing shutter, in Service Mode.
          COPIER>FUNCTION>PART-CHK>SL
          Specify a solenoid to be checked. (Range: 1 to 15)
          Operation method:
          1) Select this item.
          2) Enter the code of a solenoid using numeric keys. (8. SL8: Patch detection shutter SL)
          3) Press the OK key.
          4) Press SL-ON and check the operation
          SL-ON
          1) Select this item and press the OK key. ON/OFF operation is repeated in the following
          pattern.
          ON for 0.5 seconds --> OFF for 5 seconds --> ON for 0.5 seconds --> OFF for 5 seconds --
          > OFF

          ALSO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          Try watching the turret movement, see if sometimes it would stop at different positions, even for the same color.
          May need to Replace the Rotary Motor Unit / FM2-2641-000
          Hi Teckat,

          Please can you help on the above.

          I've checked both the motor(M39) and the sensor(PS69) relating to this error as per service manual(not very helpful as always)
          I swapped them around with the CLEAR colour motor and sensor and the error still persists.
          Checked the manual operation of the supply screw for Yellow toner as this is what it relates to and all seems fine.

          Taken the dev unit out and no issues there.
          I have now resorted to removing the toner holder seals on the turret section to check the feedscrew to the yellow dev, physically looks like the toner has clogged together and sticking to that feedscrew so i'm now wanting to remove it.
          Can you tell me how? I've managed to take the black section that has an opening to the feedscrew but the Cyan won't come off for me to get to the Yellow.
          Do you know what I can do? Found no documentation on how to do it anywhere, not even my contact at Canon is able to help.

          Thanks for your time.

          Ben

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            • teckat
              Field Supervisor

              Site Contributor
              10,000+ Posts
              • Jan 2010
              • 16083
              #4
              Re: canon image press C1

              Originally posted by Benjamin98
              Hi Teckat,

              Please can you help on the above.

              I've checked both the motor(M39) and the sensor(PS69) relating to this error as per service manual(not very helpful as always)
              I swapped them around with the CLEAR colour motor and sensor and the error still persists.
              Checked the manual operation of the supply screw for Yellow toner as this is what it relates to and all seems fine.

              Taken the dev unit out and no issues there.
              I have now resorted to removing the toner holder seals on the turret section to check the feedscrew to the yellow dev, physically looks like the toner has clogged together and sticking to that feedscrew so i'm now wanting to remove it.
              Can you tell me how? I've managed to take the black section that has an opening to the feedscrew but the Cyan won't come off for me to get to the Yellow.
              Do you know what I can do? Found no documentation on how to do it anywhere, not even my contact at Canon is able to help.

              Thanks for your time.

              Ben
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              never had to replace or remove


              u have a yellow e020-0186 code
              **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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