B227 drum units not running yeild

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  • Brett GS
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Jun 2013
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    B227 drum units not running yeild

    Hi all
    Anyone else sitting with B227 drum units that dont run yeild?
    I have had a few that bearly get 20k,have replaced drum,dev unit and transfer roller at the same time but still the drum wears on the edges.
    All original KM parts.
  • Copier Addict
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    • Jul 2013
    • 13055

    #2
    Re: B227 drum units not running yeild

    Our experience has been getting yield but no more. With the transfer roller, instead of a corona, they wear faster.

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    • qbert69
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      • Mar 2013
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      #3
      Re: B227 drum units not running yeild

      Originally posted by copier addict
      Our experience has been getting yield but no more. With the transfer roller, instead of a corona, they wear faster.
      I know on Kyoceras they have rubber charge rollers that get nasty with paper dust. Over time they will degrade from the oxidizing ozone & eventually get high voltage bubble/pop/arc spots in the rubber. Life on the charge rollers is generally 80k & at best 120k. Their amorphous silicon drums are supposed to last to 600k!!! Weak point is the charge rollers without a doubt!!!

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      • allan
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        • Apr 2010
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        #4
        Re: B227 drum units not running yeild

        Check it the metal guide on the transfer roller assy is not bent.
        Whatever

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        • allan
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          • Apr 2010
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          #5
          Re: B227 drum units not running yeild

          Originally posted by copier addict
          Our experience has been getting yield but no more. With the transfer roller, instead of a corona, they wear faster.

          If the machine runs good volume you can get 400K on a drum.
          Whatever

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          • Copier Addict
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            • Jul 2013
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            #6
            Re: B227 drum units not running yeild

            Originally posted by allan
            If the machine runs good volume you can get 400K on a drum.
            That is quite true for the C360 and 4 series. The 8 and 7 series machines, high or low volume, get to yield or a bit over and then lines develop.
            KonMin wasn't selling enough drums so they went to the charge roller design so they would fail sooner and thus sell more drums.

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            • allan
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              • Apr 2010
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              #7
              Re: B227 drum units not running yeild

              True for the color machines yes but this b/w box rocks and makes real good yield on volumes.
              Whatever

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              • CompyTech
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                500+ Posts
                • Feb 2011
                • 706

                #8
                Re: B227 drum units not running yeild

                Originally posted by copier addict
                That is quite true for the C360 and 4 series. The 8 and 7 series machines, high or low volume, get to yield or a bit over and then lines develop.
                KonMin wasn't selling enough drums so they went to the charge roller design so they would fail sooner and thus sell more drums.
                I think there is some truth to this as well. I know we've had some low volume 4e machines come back out of the field after three years or so and never had to change a drum. They should offer replaceable charger units.

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