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  • paintballer4lfe
    • Dec 2024

    [Misc] C368 Secure Print Error | Only on print server

    I'm hoping i could get some helpful info from the forum, emailing and calling KM seems to be a bit of a stretch if they can give me useful info or not.

    We've recently got a Bizhub C368 installed last week and everything works great with the exception of the Secure Print function. Keep in mind we have a few 368 model copiers around campus so they all work with the exception of this specific printer. The tech came by and imported the old config from the old 454 and everything was working fine except whenever someone sends a secure print job the copier job log states
    Authentication failure - deleted job
    (not those exact words but that's the message)

    We don't use any auth system on the copier or external linked to the copier with the exception of the print server that we use just for a main point of user's to install their respective printers. I've tried secure print direct via IP and it works perfect but whenever we try with the print server the auth error occur's every time with some random exceptions where it does work.

    What could cause this? Should i reset the settings on the copier and re enter the network, mail and fax settings manually or should i try to get a tech out to work with him and see what is causing the print server to make secure print stop working?

    User box printing works fine once the box is setup but they don't want to use that they just want secure print so they can access documents from whatever ID and PW is assigned to the job.
  • Phil B.
    Field Supervisor

    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2016
    • 22808

    #2
    Re: C368 Secure Print Error | Only on print server

    Originally posted by paintballer4lfe
    I'm hoping i could get some helpful info from the forum, emailing and calling KM seems to be a bit of a stretch if they can give me useful info or not.
    We've recently got a Bizhub C368 installed last week and everything works great with the exception of the Secure Print function. Keep in mind we have a few 368 model copiers around campus so they all work with the exception of this specific printer. The tech came by and imported the old config from the old 454 and everything was working fine except whenever someone sends a secure print job the copier job log states
    Authentication failure - deleted job (not those exact words but that's the message)
    We don't use any auth system on the copier or external linked to the copier with the exception of the print server that we use just for a main point of user's to install their respective printers. I've tried secure print direct via IP and it works perfect but whenever we try with the print server the auth error occur's every time with some random exceptions where it does work.
    What could cause this? Should i reset the settings on the copier and re enter the network, mail and fax settings manually or should i try to get a tech out to work with him and see what is causing the print server to make secure print stop working?
    User box printing works fine once the box is setup but they don't want to use that they just want secure print so they can access documents from whatever ID and PW is assigned to the job.
    well get the tech out...

    have him print the config pages from each.. and compare.


    then have him make the appropriate network changes for the trouble machine..

    if you aren't a trained tech.. DO NOT ATTEMPT this.. you could brick the machine more than it is.

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    • rrrohan
      Service Manager

      Site Contributor
      1,000+ Posts
      • Sep 2011
      • 1971

      #3
      Re: C368 Secure Print Error | Only on print server

      Did IT update the print cue with new drivers?

      I have had weird issues resulting from doing this. I always tell IT to remove print cue then install a new one.

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      • emujo2
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Mar 2017
        • 1580

        #4
        Re: C368 Secure Print Error | Only on print server

        Ditto RRRohan..go into driver/properties/configure tab..try and pull the device settings. if you get a failure then it is a driver ot port issue. I would agree that simply updating the driver for KM equipment can result in a corrupt driver. It may print, but none of the addtional features will work. Simply transferring the settings from one machine to a new machine should not cause this issue (unless authentication was enabled on the old machine but since you are printing normally using direct IP I would rule this out.

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        • gere1
          Technician
          • Oct 2018
          • 20

          #5
          Re: C368 Secure Print Error | Only on print server

          install the specific drivers c368

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          • tech51
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Jan 2009
            • 846

            #6

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            • darry1322
              Senior Tech

              Site Contributor
              500+ Posts
              • Oct 2010
              • 817

              #7
              Re: C368 Secure Print Error | Only on print server

              Originally posted by paintballer4lfe
              I'm hoping i could get some helpful info from the forum, emailing and calling KM seems to be a bit of a stretch if they can give me useful info or not.

              We've recently got a Bizhub C368 installed last week and everything works great with the exception of the Secure Print function. Keep in mind we have a few 368 model copiers around campus so they all work with the exception of this specific printer. The tech came by and imported the old config from the old 454 and everything was working fine except whenever someone sends a secure print job the copier job log states
              Authentication failure - deleted job
              (not those exact words but that's the message)

              We don't use any auth system on the copier or external linked to the copier with the exception of the print server that we use just for a main point of user's to install their respective printers. I've tried secure print direct via IP and it works perfect but whenever we try with the print server the auth error occur's every time with some random exceptions where it does work.

              What could cause this? Should i reset the settings on the copier and re enter the network, mail and fax settings manually or should i try to get a tech out to work with him and see what is causing the print server to make secure print stop working?

              User box printing works fine once the box is setup but they don't want to use that they just want secure print so they can access documents from whatever ID and PW is assigned to the job.
              From the workstation, go to the Advanced tab on the driver properties and check "print directly to the printer" instead of spool documents.
              This may not work but it's worth a try. I have used this when account codes weren't getting to the copier.

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              • tech51
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • Jan 2009
                • 846

                #8
                Re: C368 Secure Print Error | Only on print server

                Originally posted by darry1322
                From the workstation, go to the Advanced tab on the driver properties and check "print directly to the printer" instead of spool documents.
                This may not work but it's worth a try. I have used this when account codes weren't getting to the copier.
                Personally I always set the spooler to print after last page is spooled.

                The pc does the work and then sends the job in one go instead of drip feeding the job to the printer.

                Seems to help with large print jobs or jobs with high colour content.

                I did this at a school with network speed/secure print problems and it did the trick there.

                Worth a try...

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                • darry1322
                  Senior Tech

                  Site Contributor
                  500+ Posts
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 817

                  #9
                  Re: C368 Secure Print Error | Only on print server

                  Originally posted by tech51
                  Personally I always set the spooler to print after last page is spooled.

                  The pc does the work and then sends the job in one go instead of drip feeding the job to the printer.

                  Seems to help with large print jobs or jobs with high colour content.

                  I did this at a school with network speed/secure print problems and it did the trick there.

                  Worth a try...
                  That's preferred but I have had several cases with print server printing where account codes would get dropped if "print directly to printer" wasn't checked. OP is having trouble with Secure Print but it may be the same situation occurring.

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