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  • stan780953
    Technician
    • Feb 2011
    • 47

    C450i Colour Drums

    Hi,

    Just wondering if anyone has tried using a black drum to replace a colour drum and if this has been reliable in the field. The C450i black drum doesn't fit but a black C250i fits ok with a couple of adjustment similar to the 8 series and there are chip available.
  • thanakon1995
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2021
    • 8

    #2
    Re: C450i Colour Drums

    I have not tested If you have a chance, try to test.

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    • Gift
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Mar 2011
      • 2413

      #3
      Re: C450i Colour Drums

      Thanks for the tip with the BK C250i drum - we use C308 BK drums but what we do is probably way more work, because you have to harvest different parts from the i-series unit.

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      • sam_engineer
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2021
        • 1

        #4
        Re: C450i Colour Drums

        Originally posted by Gift
        Thanks for the tip with the BK C250i drum - we use C308 BK drums but what we do is probably way more work, because you have to harvest different parts from the i-series unit.
        Hello - currently need to replace the colour drums in a 450i.. can you give me more info on how to use the C308BK drums? Appreciate your help and tips.

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        • Gift
          Service Manager

          1,000+ Posts
          • Mar 2011
          • 2413

          #5
          Re: C450i Colour Drums

          Originally posted by sam_engineer
          Hello - currently need to replace the colour drums in a 450i.. can you give me more info on how to use the C308BK drums? Appreciate your help and tips.
          The differences between the units are mainly the rear cover + charger roller contact and the waster toner auger (differnet length) + nozzle thingy and - if I remember correctly - that "gearish" thing on the back on drum shaft plus that spacer. Chips from 8 series work, too. You can either harvest a C308 drum in order to refurb a i series unit (the quicker way) or strip the necessary part from the old i series drum and refurb the C308 drum and make it fit (the more thorough way). Whatever you decide, it is more work compared to COL->BK mod for the 8 series. I think the price gap between the 8 BK drum and i series BK drums do justify the effort.

          Depending on the routine the time amount might be 10-30min/unit

          Best thing is to mess around with some used units from the "bin department" in your shop first...

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          • flippinsweet
            Technician
            • Oct 2013
            • 34

            #6
            Re: C450i Colour Drums

            Thanks for the info Gift

            I've just refurbed a C308k drum with parts taken from a used C250i colour drum which I need to fit to a C450i machine. Swapped the rear cover, charge contact, drum gear and front section, also snapper off the plastic stopper on the right hand side and fitted a new colour chip for the 8 series.

            I've done this before but never had to fit to a C450i and noticed the part numbers for 450i / 250i drums are different. Do you know if this should work or if I'll need to swap the waste toner auger & nozzle you mentioned? Don't have any 450i drums in the office to play about with unfortunately!

            Thanks

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            • Coggers
              Technician
              • Jan 2014
              • 17

              #7
              Re: C450i Colour Drums

              Hi where did you get the drum chips from ?
              uk based and we need these chips.

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              • splblazer91
                Trusted Tech

                100+ Posts
                • Jul 2014
                • 204

                #8
                Re: C450i Colour Drums

                I havent had luck with swapping i-series drums. They always seem to background.

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                • tsbservice
                  Field tech

                  Site Contributor
                  5,000+ Posts
                  • May 2007
                  • 7635

                  #9
                  Re: C450i Colour Drums

                  Originally posted by splblazer91
                  I havent had luck with swapping i-series drums. They always seem to background.
                  Please specify what you mean by swapping?
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                  • splblazer91
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 204

                    #10
                    Re: C450i Colour Drums

                    Originally posted by tsbservice
                    Please specify what you mean by swapping?
                    Replacing an i series color drum with an i series black drum or vice versa.

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                    • tsbservice
                      Field tech

                      Site Contributor
                      5,000+ Posts
                      • May 2007
                      • 7635

                      #11
                      Re: C450i Colour Drums

                      Originally posted by splblazer91
                      Replacing an i series color drum with an i series black drum or vice versa.
                      Only drum cylinder or you modified whole drum unit(ie making from black colour like 4 and 8 series) but it backgrounds?
                      Sorry for maybe asking too much questions but it has some specifics you know.
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                      • avecosat
                        Trusted Tech

                        250+ Posts
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 298

                        #12
                        Re: C450i Colour Drums

                        since series 8 you can't swap color drums to black ones without making some changes

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                        • Gift
                          Service Manager

                          1,000+ Posts
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 2413

                          #13
                          Re: C450i Colour Drums

                          Originally posted by Coggers
                          Hi where did you get the drum chips from ?
                          uk based and we need these chips.
                          The chips are the same as Cxx4, Cxx8

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