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  • Acadien
    Technician
    • Nov 2009
    • 17

    #1

    Scaninng

    What is your favorite scanning setup unless ask otherwise.
    would it be...

    scan to email
    Scan to SMB

    or else?
  • allan
    RTFM!!

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    • Apr 2010
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    #2
    Re: Scaninng

    email....

    A poll would work here.
    Whatever

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    • bsm2
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      • Feb 2008
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      #3
      Re: Scaninng

      either but email seems more popular

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      • rrrohan
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        • Sep 2011
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        #4
        Re: Scaninng

        i prefer email. a lot of sites i go to dont have local DNS so if IP changes it breaks SMB/FTP. If they dont have IT they pretty much never know the login password for the router to reserve addresses neither.

        and if they dont have email account i just get them to create a gmail account.

        so for most installs emails are preferred

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        • techsxge
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          • Jan 2022
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          #5
          Re: Scaninng

          SMB and Email, partly. If i am allowed to build what i want, i do both:

          Have the MFP in its own network which can only communicate with a printing server. The printing server functions as the "door" to the other networks to allow printing. It can only route specific ports that are needed for the wanted functions. if you want to scan, here is how it works:

          The Machine will scan using SMB to the printing Server. On the printing server, it will check which SMB Scan Target was selected and then Scan to the Email address. For Problems with the Email Providers, for example email provider server problems, i also have registered a backup address so if a email cant be send to the wanted email, it'll send to a general, local address everyone can access. Not a single Scan problem in 5 years occured.
          And the printing Server is just an 30$ Raspberry PI i bought on ebay.

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          • tulintron
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            • Jul 2014
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            #6
            Re: Scaninng

            Here we have constant problems with scanner. It may be a lack of knowledge, but we realized that to configure SMB there is always a problem. My last case is a fight between a Bizhub 4750 and Windows 10. The desire I have is to put the two together and explode. LOL I realize that by email is more faithful.
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            • Hansoon
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              • Sep 2007
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              #7
              Re: Scaninng

              How'bout scanning to a NAS with FTP?
              I don't like SMB cause it always gets f'd up after some time.

              Hans
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              • techsxge
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                #8
                Re: Scaninng

                Originally posted by Hansoon
                How'bout scanning to a NAS with FTP?
                I don't like SMB cause it always gets f'd up after some time.

                Hans
                SMB gets fcked every now and then if you are using windows yes.
                I'd still use SMB to scan in NAS. Would not realy like to use a 40 year old shitty protected protocoll for scanning.

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                • techsxge
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                  #9
                  Re: Scaninng

                  Originally posted by tulintron
                  Here we have constant problems with scanner. It may be a lack of knowledge, but we realized that to configure SMB there is always a problem. My last case is a fight between a Bizhub 4750 and Windows 10. The desire I have is to put the two together and explode. LOL I realize that by email is more faithful.
                  Sounds like you're doing something wrong. I have normal, easy SMB setups at 100+ Customers, rarely hear anything back from them except they want a new scan user
                  Last edited by techsxge; 10-13-2022, 03:49 PM.

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                  • tsbservice
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                    • May 2007
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                    #10
                    Re: Scaninng

                    Originally posted by tulintron
                    Here we have constant problems with scanner. It may be a lack of knowledge, but we realized that to configure SMB there is always a problem. My last case is a fight between a Bizhub 4750 and Windows 10. The desire I have is to put the two together and explode. LOL I realize that by email is more faithful.
                    This model required specific firmware level to use SMBv2 which normally is used by Win10.
                    As for setting SMB scan it is always hit and miss depending on Windows version they have, antivirus software, 3rd party firewalls and so on I'm not always happy camper with SMB scan although I made quite a few.
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                    • tulintron
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                      #11
                      Re: Scaninng

                      Originally posted by techsxge
                      Sounds like you're doing something wrong. I have normal, easy SMB setups at 100+ Customers, rarely hear anything back from them except they want a new scan user
                      There really is some problem or error and I can't find where. But we have other models with SMB and everything goes well, although I prefer by email.
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                      • tulintron
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                        #12
                        Re: Scaninng

                        Originally posted by tsbservice
                        This model required specific firmware level to use SMBv2 which normally is used by Win10.
                        As for setting SMB scan it is always hit and miss depending on Windows version they have, antivirus software, 3rd party firewalls and so on I'm not always happy camper with SMB scan although I made quite a few.
                        Didn't know about this information. I gave permission to Windows 10 to operate with SmB 1.0/2.0/3.0.

                        It still doesn't work. I noticed that in network settings, in the SMB options, there is no option to change workgroup among other functions that also do not appear. I believe that's my problem.
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                        • slimslob
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                          #13
                          Re: Scaninng

                          Originally posted by tulintron
                          Didn't know about this information. I gave permission to Windows 10 to operate with SmB 1.0/2.0/3.0.

                          It still doesn't work. I noticed that in network settings, in the SMB options, there is no option to change workgroup among other functions that also do not appear. I believe that's my problem.
                          Unless you have actually gone into the registration editor and enabled smbv1, scanning to folder from a machine that does not support SMB v2/3 will fail. Even if you have enabled smb v1, the next Microsoft update will disable it.

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                          • tsbservice
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                            #14
                            Re: Scaninng

                            Originally posted by tulintron
                            Didn't know about this information. I gave permission to Windows 10 to operate with SmB 1.0/2.0/3.0.

                            It still doesn't work. I noticed that in network settings, in the SMB options, there is no option to change workgroup among other functions that also do not appear. I believe that's my problem.
                            What is Windows 10 type? You give me Anydesk when we both have time and will try my best to help fellow tech.
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                            Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                            • techsxge
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                              #15
                              Re: Scaninng

                              Originally posted by tsbservice
                              This model required specific firmware level to use SMBv2 which normally is used by Win10.
                              As for setting SMB scan it is always hit and miss depending on Windows version they have, antivirus software, 3rd party firewalls and so on I'm not always happy camper with SMB scan although I made quite a few.
                              I agree. This is exactly why i do the print server stuff. No need to have not needed updates for smb protocol. Only time it can fail is when there is no power. From there you can use webdav or email to access the files...
                              I can only say it again, a raspberry pi costs like 40-50$... If your customer does not have those 50$, you should ask yourself how he will pay the next bill when you come by because of smb problems

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