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  • AyJayAreDii
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Jul 2010
    • 99

    [Misc] C451/C550 Dropping off network

    I have a Bizhub C451 and a fellow colleague Bizhub C550 both dropping of the network, Both on different customers. Once droped off the network the customer has to turn the machine off and back on again to get it to print. We have tried;
    upgrading to latest levels of firmware,
    • Deleting all print drivers and reinstalling
    • changing the ports (IP),
    • changing all network cables,
    • swapped mfp board with working machine. (as the network interface in in the mfp)
    • We have changed various settings (more then I can remember to list)


    Nothing has worked and the customers are very upset as this has been an ongoing problem. The printer will only last 5 mins after being turned on. we have another C451 next to this printer which works fine. Both have same network settings (other then IP address) so both should work on the same system. Any ideas of thing to try that I have not listed are very welcome.
  • Mr Spock
    Vulcan Inventor of Death

    1,000+ Posts
    • Aug 2006
    • 2064

    #2
    I believe that there is a "special" firmware patch that fixed this issue. Also check the power save and power off settings. Also if you can swap machines and see if it moves or stays with the machine. If it moves to the other machine it is a network issue.
    And Star Trek was just a tv show...yeah right!

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    • bsm2
      IT Manager

      25,000+ Posts
      • Feb 2008
      • 27730

      #3
      You may have a bad port on their network switch , plug it into a another port

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      • Johnny_B500
        Technician
        • Mar 2007
        • 24

        #4
        Change the network speed from auto to 10/100. That usually fixes it! Let us know what you find as a resolution.

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        • suso73os
          Technician
          • Apr 2008
          • 38

          #5

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          • AyJayAreDii
            Technician

            50+ Posts
            • Jul 2010
            • 99

            #6
            @ Mr Spock / suso73os; Special firmware and R6 does not change a thing + fault stays with machine. will have to inquire weather our IT guy has changed settings for dns as you said. but as i said both machines have same parameters.
            @ bsm2; tried several time as well as changing network cables (for new ones) and changing IPs etc...
            @ Johnny_B500; network speed does not change anything either

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            • Stirton.M
              All things Konica Minolta

              1,000+ Posts
              • Oct 2009
              • 1804

              #7
              As Mr Spock mentioned, disable sleep mode in administrator. This is one bug, but it has to do with the machine failing to rise out of sleep mode and sometimes also is related to the issue you are having.

              Problem quite likely could be power related. These machines are power hogs. They are also sensitive to power fluctuations. Ensure that the machine has its own dedicated plug and that NO OTHER MACHINE, even a shredder or pencil sharpener, shares that outlet. Also ensure that you have a power conditioner for the machine, a must have. This device will ensure even and clean power to the machine, which is a major contributor to problems with pretty much the entire line of bizhubs, your problem amongst them.
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              • DCPS
                Trusted Tech

                100+ Posts
                • Mar 2008
                • 116

                #8
                Swap the NVRAM from the working machine and see what happens. You will get a licence error warning but that's no problem. Do nothing, only check if you have the same symptoms. Or you can try the NVRAM tool to reset the NIC and try again.

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                • suso73os
                  Technician
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 38

                  #9

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                  • Stirton.M
                    All things Konica Minolta

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 1804

                    #10
                    Oddly enough, just had the same thing this morning. The IT at the customer did a search and found the following...

                    Homegroup printer offline, requiring restart of print spooler

                    Long story short, disable SNMP if you are experiencing this problem, at least according to the guys on that link.

                    The drawback to doing this however, is that you will lose two way communication with the device regarding consumables and paper levels. This may be find for some, but not all. Use only if there is a problem.
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                    • AyJayAreDii
                      Technician

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                      • Jul 2010
                      • 99

                      #11

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                      • Mr Spock
                        Vulcan Inventor of Death

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2064

                        #12
                        I may just be the fiery is not talking to the printer correctly. On the printer it should have an address that starts with 172....
                        This will allow the fiery to "forward" the next higher ip address to the machine (i.e. fiery 192.168.1.10 then 192.168.1.11 is assigned to the machine and forwarded to the machine bypassing fiery intervention).
                        And Star Trek was just a tv show...yeah right!

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                        • bsm2
                          IT Manager

                          25,000+ Posts
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 27730

                          #13
                          Fiery will pull Two IP address one for the fiery and one for the copier, If you have the regular print controller pluged in direct you need to add 2 ip address up from whatever the fiery has. Its a Konica thing!

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