C353 intermittant very pale prints/copies.

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  • minimerlin
    Senior Tech

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    500+ Posts
    • Nov 2007
    • 851

    #1

    C353 intermittant very pale prints/copies.

    We have a few machines doing the same things! Looks like transfer failure but cannot be certain as never fails when engineer on site! We have change IUs, Transfer belt and roller, Control, MFP and HV boards. Checked all set ups are ok. all to no avail...still comes back. All colours go very pale at the same time, Any ideas out there?

    Thanks.
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  • acusso1234
    Tecnico

    250+ Posts
    • Dec 2008
    • 250

    #2
    Initialization and new complete installation then calibration?
    ... In the minute that you're thinking of giving up, think about why you lasted so long ...

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    • huntergazz
      Technician
      • Feb 2011
      • 23

      #3
      I had this problem with a C203 a few months ago. turned out to be the laser control board.

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      • mrwho
        Major Asshole!

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        • Apr 2009
        • 4299

        #4
        Is the light area covering the complete page or just half of it? Did the customer show you any examples?
        ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
        Mascan42

        'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

        Ibid

        I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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        • minimerlin
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          #5
          Originally posted by mrwho
          Is the light area covering the complete page or just half of it? Did the customer show you any examples?
          It is the whole of the page and all colors (inc K). I insulated the transfer roller connection as a test and I get almost the same copy/print as the user showed me. I have no means of uploading a scan at present.
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          • EarthKmTech
            Step aside, noob

            1,000+ Posts
            • May 2009
            • 2139

            #6
            Ive seen it many times, from what ive seen its failed second transfer.

            opening and closing of the main right hand side door will fix it instantly - till it comes back again.

            Replacing the second transfer roller has worked for me, along with cleaning its contact.

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            • minimerlin
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              #7
              Thanks for the reply...we have replaced the roller, contact and HV.....still re-occurs tho!
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              • mo0651
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Apr 2009
                • 1054

                #8
                Is it throwing a c2152 code? Check counters. We had that happen because of the alienation sensor being dirty.

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                • minimerlin
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by mo0651
                  Is it throwing a c2152 code? Check counters. We had that happen because of the alienation sensor being dirty.
                  No codes at all! ..just a quick question tho..what do you mean by alienation sensor? Never heard of these in any of my machines
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                  • chexin51
                    Technician
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 37

                    #10
                    CL7 might be slipping

                    The transfer belt has rollers that move up to pressure the T belt against the drums when color copying and they release when making BW copies. Clutch CL7 is responsible for this action - it might be slipping

                    a. remove the Rear Left (as viewed from rear) covers so the PWB is exposed
                    remove upper rear cover
                    look between the 2 fans and look down - you can just see the 2 copper bearings with shafts
                    the one on the right is CL7 ( A02EM20000 ) Clutch for the TBelt Pressure Retraction - the shaft must rotate once
                    If it does not rotate then the clutch must be replaced - 3 hours minimum

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                    • minimerlin
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                      • Nov 2007
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by chexin51
                      The transfer belt has rollers that move up to pressure the T belt against the drums when color copying and they release when making BW copies. Clutch CL7 is responsible for this action - it might be slipping

                      a. remove the Rear Left (as viewed from rear) covers so the PWB is exposed
                      remove upper rear cover
                      look between the 2 fans and look down - you can just see the 2 copper bearings with shafts
                      the one on the right is CL7 ( A02EM20000 ) Clutch for the TBelt Pressure Retraction - the shaft must rotate once
                      If it does not rotate then the clutch must be replaced - 3 hours minimum
                      Thanks for your suggestion, been there done that! I also do know my machine theory...! I wonder tho if time passes more slowly in Canada as it did not take 3 hours...is that Big Country Hours??lol
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