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  • EarthKmTech
    Step aside, noob
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    • May 2009
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    Di2510

    Has anyone modified one to use Bizhub 250 toner, developer, drums, fusing units & developing units ?

    The above mentioned parts for the Di2510 are now impossible to source for me (genuine only, not interested in aftermarket)

    would like to know if its possible before wasting my time. i know the dev unit on the bizhubs incorporates a toner filter, but is that going to get in the way of anything ?
  • ck1
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    • Apr 2008
    • 485

    #2
    Re: Di2510

    Sorry ! you can't swap the bizhub 250 dev for di2510 . totaly cant work .

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    • EarthKmTech
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      • May 2009
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      #3
      Re: Di2510

      What toner & developer can i use in the 2510? I cant get it here...

      I can rebuild the 2510 dev unit anyway.

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      • Hansoon
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        • Sep 2007
        • 3248

        #4
        Re: Di2510

        Developer is very different and therefore the ATDC sensor will not work. Also is the lower unit missing the airduct.

        Drums are the same and also the fuser rollers can be used. I'm not sure about the fuser unit frame structure itself cause we have only Bizhubs and the older Di-XXX but not Di-XXXX in the field.

        Hans
        Last edited by Hansoon; 06-16-2012, 01:18 PM.
        " Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0 "

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        • EarthKmTech
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          • May 2009
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          #5
          Re: Di2510

          wow, well that sucks.

          I guess its time to upgrade them - its a shame because I have 3 of them that are otherwise perfect with very low meter readings (I cant get genuine toner anymore and now one of them needs a complete imaging unit as its in poor condition)

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          • Hansoon
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            • Sep 2007
            • 3248

            #6
            Re: Di2510

            You're not having Katun Downunder?

            I hate to advise Katun since I didn't forgive them the rotten way they treated the issue with the crappy LFR bearings for the Di-450 in the past but here we go:

            Supplies 3510:

            Toner 8937-749 Katun # 25339
            Developer 8936-418 Katun # 22491
            OPC rebuild kit Katun # 35860
            UFR 4030-5701-03 Katun # 24317
            LFR 4030-5702-02 Katun # 25296

            If you need the modified drum spacer collars (see my Avatar) to beef up the developing unit I can send them to you. I have the eventual necessary seals as well. You can take the spiral mixing roller out of a Di-350/351 unit in case the ATDC wiper is worn. This applies to the other mixing rollers, gears, bushings and mag roller itself as well. We rebuild our Bizhub 350 series Image Units by cannibalizing not any more needed used Image Units of the Di-XXX series which are still in good condition.

            Hans
            Last edited by Hansoon; 06-16-2012, 01:20 PM.
            " Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0 "

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            • ck1
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              • Apr 2008
              • 485

              #7
              Re: Di2510

              you can use Tn114 toner and DV 110 for bizhub 163 ( if you still need use di 3510 ) as the same

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              • EarthKmTech
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                • May 2009
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                #8
                Re: Di2510

                thanks, champ!

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                • PeterG
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                  • Jul 2008
                  • 177

                  #9
                  Re: Di2510

                  It has been my observation that the problems with the collars or rollers wearing in the dev units started when the BH250/350 series started. You can actually feel the difference in the developer with your fingers. All this crap from Konica about getting dev under the mylars is just that, crap. The increased wear is due to the characteristics of the dev. I think you would be going down a risky path by switching drums & dev.
                  Incidentally, the 2510/3510 would have to have been one of my favorite copiers. We had virtually had no problems with these copiers at all. As per usual, Konica fixed the things that didn't need fixing on the next series and effectively went backwards.

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                  • Darren King
                    copiertech
                    500+ Posts
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 652

                    #10
                    Re: Di2510

                    I was of the understanding that DV110 and DV310 are the same except for the fact that there is 200g in DV110 and 300g in DV310. The drums are interchangable and that usually means that the compostion of the dev is the same. I have used the same drum to rebuild image units all the the way from the Di251 up to the BH350. Therefore, to me that means the dev is the same. I could be wrong though.
                    Darren

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                    • ck1
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                      • Apr 2008
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                      #11
                      Re: Di2510

                      Originally posted by Darren King
                      I was of the understanding that DV110 and DV310 are the same except for the fact that there is 200g in DV110 and 300g in DV310. The drums are interchangable and that usually means that the compostion of the dev is the same. I have used the same drum to rebuild image units all the the way from the Di251 up to the BH350. Therefore, to me that means the dev is the same. I could be wrong though.
                      Darren
                      you sure DV310 and Dv110 as the same ? i try it before dv110 put in bizhub 250 c2557 error . but i no try change the ATDC sensor ( di2510 to bizhub 250 DV tank ), maybe work ???? i sure DV di251 ,di 2510, di1611, BH162,Di152 all the same .( but becareful when you swap dv tank di1611/251 (TDK ) to di2510 ( Hitachi )check the ATDC sensor )Hope this help for all

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                      • Hansoon
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                        • Sep 2007
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                        #12
                        Re: Di2510

                        Di-152, 183, 250, 350, 251, 351 Series uses MT-106 (new number DV-110) developer. Can also be used for Di-22510, 3010, 3510 with adapted weigth.

                        BH-200, 250, 350 Series uses DV-310 developer and is physically NO way compatible with the previous mentioned.

                        The same applies to the toner of both kinds as well.

                        That the drums are the same has nothing to say.

                        Hans
                        " Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0 "

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                        • tmaze01
                          Technician
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                          • Oct 2010
                          • 76

                          #13
                          Re: Di2510

                          Originally posted by PerthKMTECH
                          wow, well that sucks.

                          I guess its time to upgrade them - its a shame because I have 3 of them that are otherwise perfect with very low meter readings (I cant get genuine toner anymore and now one of them needs a complete imaging unit as its in poor condition)
                          Are you looking for "photoconductor 305" imaging units? if so I have a couple of them, also if you need toner for this machine 8937-753 i may have some of those as well. as well as fuser assy's

                          let me know

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                          • Hansoon
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                            • Sep 2007
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                            #14
                            Re: Di2510

                            The guy is in "Down Under" or Scotland, how're going to ship............



                            Hans
                            " Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0 "

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                            • Darren King
                              copiertech
                              500+ Posts
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 652

                              #15
                              Re: Di2510

                              Originally posted by Hansoon
                              Di-152, 183, 250, 350, 251, 351 Series uses MT-106 (new number DV-110) developer. Can also be used for Di-22510, 3010, 3510 with adapted weigth.


                              Hans
                              Why do you need to adapt the weight of DV110 to use it in the Di2010/3510?

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