Konica Minolta C250

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  • nmilisic
    Technician
    • Mar 2009
    • 30

    #16
    Re: Konica Minolta C250

    Originally posted by mrwho
    The machine is either overcompensating the toner because it can't detect it - Check the black connector as I said before; If not, then you're in for some hard time - probably one or more of the HV connectors at the back of the machine got rusty and snapped. Check this post I did 2 years ago so you know what you can check next. If this is it, then you're lucky it's the back color, because that's the only one I know it's possible to replace. If it happens on any other color you either create a bypass with some electrical wire or you sell the customer another machine.

    Good luck!
    Once again thanks, now I go to check that black connectors..

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    • Toxic
      Senior Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Dec 2009
      • 697

      #17
      Re: Konica Minolta C250

      I dont understand this disscusion...
      Machine nicely requesting new toner and you check and replace everything else?
      Reason why that empty toner works on other machine is some ammount of toner in toner ducts and that is enough for few copies with no problem.
      Try put some bw print job about 100-200 sheets and that machine will give you same the code.
      Did you try put new toner and try again,run toner supply from service menu?
      Today i have same error on bizhub c352 and like many times before problem was empty toner and peple who works with machine simply open/close door when machine asks for toner and it works 5-100 copies,maybe ask toner few times than just give code c-2557.

      Ps:jesi ti neki nas?

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      • mrwho
        Major Asshole!

        Site Contributor
        2,500+ Posts
        • Apr 2009
        • 4299

        #18
        Re: Konica Minolta C250

        Originally posted by Toxic
        I dont understand this disscusion...
        Machine nicely requesting new toner and you check and replace everything else?
        Reason why that empty toner works on other machine is some ammount of toner in toner ducts and that is enough for few copies with no problem.
        Try put some bw print job about 100-200 sheets and that machine will give you same the code.
        Did you try put new toner and try again,run toner supply from service menu?
        Today i have same error on bizhub c352 and like many times before problem was empty toner and peple who works with machine simply open/close door when machine asks for toner and it works 5-100 copies,maybe ask toner few times than just give code c-2557.

        Ps:jesi ti neki nas?
        What you're describing was one of the first things pointed out in this thread by Skazic. So, everything I said after that was assuming that hypothesis was ruled out by Nmilisic. Of course you could be right and I'm barking at the wrong tree here, but all we can do is give ideas on how to solve the problem, is the asker who must try out everything and ultimately find what's wrong with the machine.
        ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
        Mascan42

        'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

        Ibid

        I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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        • Toxic
          Senior Tech

          500+ Posts
          • Dec 2009
          • 697

          #19
          Re: Konica Minolta C250

          Yes,my advice is already posted on first page but author also said that he is try that toner on other machine ,not new one,so everybody forget about that and that is crucial (in my opinion).
          I explain why that toner worked on other machine.

          @nmilisic
          Did you try put new toner in machine?
          Try open to chech is there some toner inside toner box.
          Can you make difference between full and empty toner,i mean did you change them before so can make difference when hold it in hands?


          @mrwho
          I hope that you're not offended, we all want to help and everyone can make mistakes and we are not clairvoyant.

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          • Darren King
            copiertech

            500+ Posts
            • Jul 2007
            • 652

            #20
            Re: Konica Minolta C250

            There is also the toner port that opens when you slide the IU in. Check to make sure it is opening.

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            • mrwho
              Major Asshole!

              Site Contributor
              2,500+ Posts
              • Apr 2009
              • 4299

              #21
              Re: Konica Minolta C250

              Originally posted by Toxic
              @mrwho
              I hope that you're not offended, we all want to help and everyone can make mistakes and we are not clairvoyant.
              Not at all, just clarifying my position.

              Cheers!
              ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
              Mascan42

              'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

              Ibid

              I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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              • nmilisic
                Technician
                • Mar 2009
                • 30

                #22
                Re: Konica Minolta C250

                I try (from another machine) K toner, K -IU, IBT bet, HV connectors, HV board and still no black on print or copy.... I try to manual add toner to black IU and K-TCR starts on 17,44% but than drop to 0.99%..

                Other TCR (CMY) are always normal (about 8%), I tried forced black toner but all that black toner machine launch to waste box...


                Machine have 64000 black and 14000 color prints...

                any suggestion what I should check next?

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                • bronco31
                  Trusted Tech

                  Site Contributor
                  100+ Posts
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 174

                  #23
                  Konica damn C2557 C2555 etc.. codes

                  what hopeless awful technology that has to constantly add toner to achieve this magical 8% mix of dev and toner...
                  mono-component Kyoceras (the toner has the dev mixed in it already) seems brilliant... yet they too can be "overtoned"... then get smudges, random dot clouds ... meaning the developer trough gets "overfilled" ???? ( i still dont know if im properly doing the AC Calibration, all colors at +4)
                  honestly, its like we techs are expected to understand/ be imaging equipment design/electrical engineers ..

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                  • JR2ALTA
                    Service Manager

                    Site Contributor
                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 2031

                    #24
                    Re: Konica damn C2557 C2555 etc.. codes

                    Originally posted by bronco31
                    what hopeless awful technology that has to constantly add toner to achieve this magical 8% mix of dev and toner... mono-component Kyoceras (the toner has the dev mixed in it already) seems brilliant... yet they too can be "overtoned"... then get smudges, random dot clouds ... meaning the developer trough gets "overfilled" ???? ( i still dont know if im properly doing the AC Calibration, all colors at +4) honestly, its like we techs are expected to understand/ be imaging equipment design/electrical engineers ..
                    I don't think Kyo's overtone..more like rare clumping or doctor blade failures.

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                    • nmilisic
                      Technician
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 30

                      #25
                      Re: Konica Minolta C250

                      Sorry for the late response...
                      I have replaced PWB-M and now everything is ok.


                      Thanks everyone for help!

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