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  • rosaro75
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    Resetting the fuser and transfer belt without using fuse

    HI EVERYBODY,

    i am a canon tech. Is there any other alternate way to reset FUSER and TRANSFER BELT UNIT. one of my customer who have bizhub c350 struggles the transfer belt lifetime finished. i don't have any fuse with me. but i reset without using fuse. can anyone find the way that how may i reset. if you can't find it i will tell you after getting your comments and replies.

    i can tell you now. but i want many ideas from who tried to reset. some person who found this easy method may not express it. but i will tell you after i getting comments on this post.

    thanks.
  • goldencup
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    Re: Resetting the fuser and transfer belt without using fuse

    Hi, i have bizhub C250 (though it's different from C350). I don't have any idea if it's possible to reset fusing unit and transfer belt without a fuse. Also I don't have fuse here that's why i'm looking for an alternative i'm just not sure if this one is okay

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    • Hansoon
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      Re: Resetting the fuser and transfer belt without using fuse

      Use an Analog multimeter in the low current range and as soon as it reaches between 5-10mA disconnect, but................. It's not without risk and when you are too late disconnecting the leads it might harm the electronics of the machine.

      We did this in the 80's with the Minolta EP-2120 copiers when no fuse available. You must use an analog instrument cause the digitals take too long to stabilize reading.

      Those fuses are so cheap and easy available that I normally would not take a risk.

      Hans
      “Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0”

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      • goldencup
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        Re: Resetting the fuser and transfer belt without using fuse

        Originally posted by Hansoon
        Use an Analog multimeter in the low current range and as soon as it reaches between 5-10mA disconnect, but................. It's not without risk and when you are too late disconnecting the leads it might harm the electronics of the machine.

        We did this in the 80's with the Minolta EP-2120 copiers when no fuse available. You must use an analog instrument cause the digitals take too long to stabilize reading.

        Those fuses are so cheap and easy available that I normally would not take a risk.

        Hans

        Hi sir Hans

        May I know your step by step procedure on how you reset using analog multimeter Thank you very much

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        • Gaffers01
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          Re: Resetting the fuser and transfer belt without using fuse

          Whats the point the fuses are sooo cheap, sounds like Bulls*%^t to me.

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          • pepper38_cnd
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            Re: Resetting the fuser and transfer belt without using fuse

            Why trying any other way? Fuses are inexpensive and easy to replace! Plus it is they way the machine is supposed to work, trying anything else could risk a more expensive repair. Is this a Canon Tech thing, when there is a known reliable fix you have to find a different way to do it?
            Online Store is closed. Chip resetting is a thing of the past! Thank you to all my past customers.
            Now into Ip TV KODI Boxes

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            • rosaro75
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              Re: Resetting the fuser and transfer belt without using fuse

              Originally posted by Hansoon
              Use an Analog multimeter in the low current range and as soon as it reaches between 5-10mA disconnect, but................. It's not without risk and when you are too late disconnecting the leads it might harm the electronics of the machine.

              We did this in the 80's with the Minolta EP-2120 copiers when no fuse available. You must use an analog instrument cause the digitals take too long to stabilize reading.

              Those fuses are so cheap and easy available that I normally would not take a risk.

              Hans
              you are right. but don't connect in 20ma setting. the multi meter may get damage. i am using digital meter. put it in 10A mode. just connect multi meter probe instead of fuse. that means connect a thin wires on blown fuse both end. or you can find wire which connect dc controller to fuse.just connect the multi meter probe to that two wire. switch on the machine. when you see reading in multi meter just remove one probe. thats all.


              tips
              connect one probe tightly. second one you press with your hand. no risks. only 12v. 60ma. this will not do harm.

              for fuser reset the machine reads fuse within 15sec after switch on the machine.
              for transfer belt machine reads fuse after reading patches. so have to wait more than 30sec.

              the fusing current come only for 3sec. when you see change value from zero. don't see the reading. just remove one probe. now the unit is resetted. after that remove the wire.

              there is no risk in this. i did it for more than 100 machines and various model. no failures.

              there is nothing difference in technology. canon tech. xerox tech. km tech. just we split it.
              this one is useful to anyone of the person i will happy

              thanks
              rosario

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              • Hansoon
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                Re: Resetting the fuser and transfer belt without using fuse

                Whats the point the fuses are sooo cheap, sounds like Bulls*%^t to me.
                ???

                Hans
                “Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0”

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                • oldschool
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                  Re: Resetting the fuser and transfer belt without using fuse

                  I just did this the other day on a C250. I used a 80ma fast acting buss fuse. I cut out the old pico fuse. Then I zip tied the wires to each end of the buss fuse. Took me all of 15 minutes.
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                  • EarthKmTech
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                    Re: Resetting the fuser and transfer belt without using fuse

                    the old c350 range has no over current protection for transfer belt and fuser reset fuse blowing current.

                    if it cant blow the "fuse" in a timely fashion scorching damage to the printer control board will result.

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                    • DUKEY
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                      • Sep 2008
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                      #11
                      Re: Resetting the fuser and transfer belt without using fuse

                      Originally posted by rosaro75
                      HI EVERYBODY,

                      i am a canon tech. Is there any other alternate way to reset FUSER and TRANSFER BELT UNIT. one of my customer who have bizhub c350 struggles the transfer belt lifetime finished. i don't have any fuse with me. but i reset without using fuse. can anyone find the way that how may i reset. if you can't find it i will tell you after getting your comments and replies.

                      i can tell you now. but i want many ideas from who tried to reset. some person who found this easy method may not express it. but i will tell you after i getting comments on this post.

                      thanks.
                      I could tell ya but what kind of techs are those who can't get a 1 DOLLAR fuse???? they sell them on the INTERNET!!

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                      • rosaro75
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                        Re: Resetting the fuser and transfer belt without using fuse

                        Originally posted by DUKEY
                        I could tell ya but what kind of techs are those who can't get a 1 DOLLAR fuse???? they sell them on the INTERNET!!
                        1$ doesn't matter. we can't get it easily. coz we have to order the fuse for konica minolta people. they purposely making delay to give spares. one fuse they sold me for 10$. for one fuse 2days and 10dollers?. is this cheep?. one person said 350 is a old model. so it withstand for overcurrent. but new model it will not withstand for high current. i don't know how many pcbs he burnt by resetting like this. it is no risk to short with multi meter. those who have basic knowledge in electronics knows the simple thing is not a risky one.

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                        • cypcopier
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                          • Dec 2008
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                          #13
                          Re: Resetting the fuser and transfer belt without using fuse

                          can ı use that fuse both transfer belt and fuser unit

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                          • Jude
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                            Re: Resetting the fuser and transfer belt without using fuse

                            Originally posted by cypcopier
                            can ı use that fuse both transfer belt and fuser unit
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                            • copyshop.suceava
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                              • Jan 2013
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                              Re: Resetting the fuser and transfer belt without using fuse

                              Originally posted by oldschool
                              I just did this the other day on a C250. I used a 80ma fast acting buss fuse. I cut out the old pico fuse. Then I zip tied the wires to each end of the buss fuse. Took me all of 15 minutes.
                              can you tell me where I can find the fuse in the fusing unit? at my C250 fusing unit looks like that
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