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  • technosystems
    Technician
    • Jul 2013
    • 34

    #1

    Dears ..rescued me please - bizhub pro c5500

    My machine : Konica minolta bizhub pro c5500

    Two weeks ago My Machine error occurred : c-2861, i tried to repair this error but no way
    And after 2 days from that: error disappeared (Not knowing how it was repaired !!)

    When I run the machine today I founded the same mistake again : c-2861

    This error in service manual meaning that : Gamma correction/Y aborted. Patch output voltage is high.(Error 3)

    Please help me ... Thanks for all
  • Mick01
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Nov 2012
    • 362

    #2
    Re: Dears ..rescued me please - bizhub pro c5500

    This could be caused by a number of items.
    Worn "Y" developer- is the developer at or near end of life?
    Worn "Y" developer unit- is the developing unit over life?
    Dirty Gamma sensor- take out Colour registration unit and thoroughly clean the gamma sensor.
    "Y" Charging unit not in correctly or at end of life.
    Output internal test patterns to check for correct output.

    hope this helps

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    • technosystems
      Technician
      • Jul 2013
      • 34

      #3
      Re: Dears ..rescued me please - bizhub pro c5500

      Originally posted by Mick01
      This could be caused by a number of items.
      Worn "Y" developer- is the developer at or near end of life?
      Worn "Y" developer unit- is the developing unit over life?
      Dirty Gamma sensor- take out Colour registration unit and thoroughly clean the gamma sensor.
      "Y" Charging unit not in correctly or at end of life.
      Output internal test patterns to check for correct output.

      hope this helps
      Many thanks for your cooperation but please i checked parts counter and i founded all of follow parts colored by red color and Exceeded end of life :

      Item P/N
      Charging Corona /Y A03UA460
      Charging Corona /M A03UA460
      Charging Corona /C A03UA460
      Charging Corona /K A03UA460
      Enclosed Developing /Y A04PT700
      Enclosed Developing /M A04PT800
      Enclosed Developing /C A04PT900
      Enclosed Developing /K A04PT600
      Transfer belt A03U5042
      Toner collection sheet 65AA-293
      Belt cleaning blade A03U5530
      1st transfer roller /Y A03U5012
      1st transfer roller /M A03U5012
      1st transfer roller /C A03U5012
      1st transfer roller /K A03U5004
      2nd transfer roller /U 65AA2611
      Transfer belt separation claw 65AA-287
      Separation claw solenoid 26NA8251
      2nd transfer roller /L 65AA4501
      Separation discharging unit A03UA522
      Belt regulating sleeve A03U7250
      Insulating sleeve /U A03U7295
      Fixing drive gear /B A03U8082
      Fixing bearing /1 A03U8078
      Fixing drive gear /0 A03U8095
      Feed/reverse rubber(tray2) 25SA4096
      Registration roller 65LA-464
      FNS paper exit roller /A 122H4825
      FNS paper exit roller /B A04D8904
      FNS conveyance roller /4 13QE4531

      please told me what can i do

      If you can send me the steps to do to Output internal test patterns to check for correct output

      Many thanks for you dear ..

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      • emujo
        Field Supervisor

        2,500+ Posts
        • Jun 2009
        • 3009

        #4
        Re: Dears ..rescued me please - bizhub pro c5500

        Get bent....you want to be and end user and run your machine into the ground, go ahead...but don't ask a tech to help you "reset" the counts so you can keep grinding out the copies at whatever price you jack it to your customers. It looks like you need everything replaced so call a tech and get it over with. Emujo
        If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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        • technosystems
          Technician
          • Jul 2013
          • 34

          #5
          Re: Dears ..rescued me please - bizhub pro c5500

          Originally posted by emujo
          Get bent....you want to be and end user and run your machine into the ground, go ahead...but don't ask a tech to help you "reset" the counts so you can keep grinding out the copies at whatever price you jack it to your customers. It looks like you need everything replaced so call a tech and get it over with. Emujo

          I understand that very well
          I actually started my business in this field recently, but I connected with some clients to deliver them copies
          And now here I am suffering from the lack of help, especially as my country's political problems and that it stops working often
          I hope to find a way to run the machine until the situation improves here
          I hope that I can find help in order to reset the counts temporarily

          Ahmed

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          • Mick01
            Trusted Tech

            250+ Posts
            • Nov 2012
            • 362

            #6
            Re: Dears ..rescued me please - bizhub pro c5500

            Hi Ahmed,
            I will not instruct how to "reset" parts counters on a device without replacing the parts first. I will also not instruct how to get into service mode and output test patterns. I will advise however that the test pattern i would output is 8 pages of test pattern 62. If you know how to get into service mode this should make sense.
            I STRONGLY advise you get a trained technician to look at your machine to resolve your issues. Your machine is in desperate need of a service.

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            • JustManuals
              Field Supervisor

              5,000+ Posts
              • Jan 2006
              • 9838

              #7
              Re: Dears ..rescued me please - bizhub pro c5500

              This Parts & Service Manual can now be purchased for $12.77 and downloaded immediately after payment from:


              Just Manuals, The Internet's largest selection of manuals ~ Instant Downloads


              Paul@justmanuals.com

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              • technosystems
                Technician
                • Jul 2013
                • 34

                #8
                Re: Dears ..rescued me please - bizhub pro c5500

                Originally posted by Mick01
                Hi Ahmed,
                I will not instruct how to "reset" parts counters on a device without replacing the parts first. I will also not instruct how to get into service mode and output test patterns. I will advise however that the test pattern i would output is 8 pages of test pattern 62. If you know how to get into service mode this should make sense.
                I STRONGLY advise you get a trained technician to look at your machine to resolve your issues. Your machine is in desperate need of a service.

                Dear Mick,
                I can get into service mode, and now my problem not solved yet
                But i run machine by circumvent :
                I can not I run the machine in the usual way after warming up
                I enter service mode before machine warming up and accessing "gamma sensor auto adjustment", machine make warming up for copy the page to do the adjustment But the adjustment not completed cause: "error value" !!! Then I get out of service mode and go to printing and machine run normal

                I can arrive to test patterns but not know how to do it yet and how to discover the error..

                Thank you for your attention
                Ahmed

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                • JR2ALTA
                  Service Manager

                  Site Contributor
                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 2031

                  #9
                  Re: Dears ..rescued me please - bizhub pro c5500

                  Ahmed, I have a lot of respect for you while pursuing our shared occupation in the midst of violence and chaos.

                  But this machine is very complicated, it needs parts and a trained eye to get it working.

                  If it were a matter of cleaning the glass, or hitting the "work right dammit" button, we'd tell you.

                  Good luck, brother.

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                  • technosystems
                    Technician
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 34

                    #10
                    Re: Dears ..rescued me please - bizhub pro c5500

                    Originally posted by JR2ALTA
                    Ahmed, I have a lot of respect for you while pursuing our shared occupation in the midst of violence and chaos.

                    But this machine is very complicated, it needs parts and a trained eye to get it working.

                    If it were a matter of cleaning the glass, or hitting the "work right dammit" button, we'd tell you.

                    Good luck, brother.

                    Thank you my friend for polite dialogue
                    I know very well what you are you mean, but the problem for me that I've bought this Used machine from France and didn't purchase it from my country, therefore the agent here rejects to give me assistance even inks, I decided compelled to rely on myself in the implementation of my work
                    May you not be able to explain everything, but I hope you tell me :
                    what the first most important thing I have to do?
                    what the first most important part to purchase and replace it in order to solve the problem ?

                    I will replace every needed parts but gradually.

                    Many thanks for you

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                    • Hansoon
                      Field Supervisor

                      Site Contributor
                      2,500+ Posts
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 3374

                      #11
                      Re: Dears ..rescued me please - bizhub pro c5500

                      Guys I think Ahmed deserves all our support.

                      Not only that he lives in a country in turmoil with a crashed economy but also the KonicaMinolta agent over there is an ass. Have been myself in Cairo just six month's ago and I can tell you life there is very tough.

                      Unfortunately I do not have experience with his machine so I cannot help here.

                      Good luck Ahmed, Allah maak.

                      Hans
                      “Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0”

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                      • technosystems
                        Technician
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 34

                        #12
                        Re: Dears ..rescued me please - bizhub pro c5500

                        Originally posted by Hansoon
                        Guys I think Ahmed deserves all our support.

                        Not only that he lives in a country in turmoil with a crashed economy but also the KonicaMinolta agent over there is an ass. Have been myself in Cairo just six month's ago and I can tell you life there is very tough.

                        Unfortunately I do not have experience with his machine so I cannot help here.

                        Good luck Ahmed, Allah maak.

                        Hans
                        You are really a conciliator in the description of the position which I suffer
                        Here in Egypt we can say that we didn't have Konica Minolta agency.

                        I think if i learned her enough learning, i will be the agency of Konica Minolta in Egypt

                        Thank you my brother Hansoon

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                        • 907tec
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 434

                          #13
                          Re: Dears ..rescued me please - bizhub pro c5500

                          Do you have the Service Manual for this machine? It is essential. If you are comfortable working on the machine, I would begin with removing the yellow drum unit, yellow developer unit, and yellow charge unit from the machine. Clean the units, clean the area that they are installed in, and reinstall. At the same time, I would remove the laser slit glass (small strip of glass to the right of the developer unit, inside the machine main body). While the process unit is pulled out of the machine, carefully clean the Color Registration / Gamma Sensor assembly. This is located inside the main body, to the left of the transfer belt. There are 3 sensors located on the assembly, each hidden by a spring-loaded cover. Lift the covers and thoroughly clean the sensor windows. If the act of cleaning doesn't affect the error code, you will have to visually inspect many of the "expired" parts on your list. Look at the belt, especially.

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                          • technosystems
                            Technician
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 34

                            #14
                            Re: Dears ..rescued me please - bizhub pro c5500

                            Originally posted by 907tec
                            Do you have the Service Manual for this machine? It is essential. If you are comfortable working on the machine, I would begin with removing the yellow drum unit, yellow developer unit, and yellow charge unit from the machine. Clean the units, clean the area that they are installed in, and reinstall. At the same time, I would remove the laser slit glass (small strip of glass to the right of the developer unit, inside the machine main body). While the process unit is pulled out of the machine, carefully clean the Color Registration / Gamma Sensor assembly. This is located inside the main body, to the left of the transfer belt. There are 3 sensors located on the assembly, each hidden by a spring-loaded cover. Lift the covers and thoroughly clean the sensor windows. If the act of cleaning doesn't affect the error code, you will have to visually inspect many of the "expired" parts on your list. Look at the belt, especially.


                            In fact, this is what I'm looking for. Thanks you dear for your cooperation
                            I have the service Manual, and i'll start with attempts to implement as much as possible.

                            You all the appreciation
                            Ahmed

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                            • Mick01
                              Trusted Tech

                              250+ Posts
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 362

                              #15
                              Re: Dears ..rescued me please - bizhub pro c5500

                              Hi Ahmed,
                              If you know how to get into service mode (procedure in the manual) i will direct you in regards to test prints
                              Service Mode - Test Mode - Test pattern output mode
                              Screen has test pattern number and CMYK densities.
                              Input 62 into the test pattern
                              Input 255 into c,m,y,k densities (they should already be 255)
                              Press Print mode (bottom of the screen), choose the paper tray you want the test prints to come from, input 8 into the quantity and press print.
                              The machine will output 8 prints, these are gradation pages for Y,M,C,K,R,G,B and 3 colour process (CMY on one page)

                              When you examine the prints look for void lines, dark streaks etc. This can isolate any issues with the individual colours.
                              If you can scan the first 4 pages (YMCK single colour) and attach them one of us can probably advise on a course of action for you.

                              Hope this helps,
                              Mick

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