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  • yianni
    Technician
    • Jan 2013
    • 42

    #1

    C451 drum cleaning blade

    I can't find the C451/C550/C650 cleaning blade from a supplier in my country. I think that the C350/C450/C451 cleaning blade is the same. Is that true?
  • methogod
    Senior Tech

    Site Contributor
    500+ Posts
    • Dec 2008
    • 917

    #2
    Re: C451 drum cleaning blade

    no cleaning blades, they are imaging units, replace the entire color unit that has failed.

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    • RRodgers
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Jun 2009
      • 1947

      #3
      Re: C451 drum cleaning blade

      Originally posted by yianni
      I can't find the C451/C550/C650 cleaning blade from a supplier in my country. I think that the C350/C450/C451 cleaning blade is the same. Is that true?
      Yes, the C451 cleaning blade is the same on a C451.
      As far as the C350 and C450, those are completely different boxes.
      Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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      • yianni
        Technician
        • Jan 2013
        • 42

        #4
        Re: C451 drum cleaning blade

        Originally posted by RRodgers
        Yes, the C451 cleaning blade is the same on a C451.
        As far as the C350 and C450, those are completely different boxes.
        You are right. I meant C350/C351/C450.

        Or, is there any other blade that is same with the blade into the C451/C550/C650 imaging units?

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        • methogod
          Senior Tech

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          500+ Posts
          • Dec 2008
          • 917

          #5
          Re: C451 drum cleaning blade

          the time it takes to pull them apart you would be better of just replacing.

          i dont think your going to find blades for them, i still cant find them rebuilt...

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          • Synaux
            Service Manager

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            1,000+ Posts
            • Mar 2012
            • 1224

            #6
            Re: C451 drum cleaning blade

            Originally posted by methogod
            the time it takes to pull them apart you would be better of just replacing.

            i dont think your going to find blades for them, i still cant find them rebuilt...
            Even though they are a pain to disassemble, I suspect that around 50% of IUs fail prematurely (even when past EOL) due to the wear on the blade. I wish there were replacement blades.

            I have been tempted more than once to switch blades out of a bran new IU and keep the new drum as a backup--if for no other reason than to test my theory, but its simply cost prohibitive and risky.

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            • methogod
              Senior Tech

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              500+ Posts
              • Dec 2008
              • 917

              #7
              Re: C451 drum cleaning blade

              i find that they fail due to DV loosing charge.... i guess business vs production makes a difference.

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              • yianni
                Technician
                • Jan 2013
                • 42

                #8
                Re: C451 drum cleaning blade

                Originally posted by Synaux
                Even though they are a pain to disassemble, I suspect that around 50% of IUs fail prematurely (even when past EOL) due to the wear on the blade. I wish there were replacement blades.
                I have been tempted more than once to switch blades out of a bran new IU and keep the new drum as a backup--if for no other reason than to test my theory, but its simply cost prohibitive and risky.
                I'm not a technician for machines, I work on toner supplies, and I also make some imaging units for some models. These imaging units are for many pages (colors: 100,000, black: 300,000), so, I think that someone should replace all parts.

                I'm still looking for a substitiution of the C451/C550/C650 drum cleaning blade from another model.

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                • EarthKmTech
                  Step aside, noob

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • May 2009
                  • 2139

                  #9
                  Re: C451 drum cleaning blade

                  the one's i see fail in a number of days after installation are because the dev roller anti-scatter mylar ends up folding against the roller and scooping dev off until it builds a mountain between the drum and dev roller.

                  shaking the imaging unit thoroughly side to side and back and forth before installation has made a huge difference for this issue, I only see it when I forget to do this.

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                  • methogod
                    Senior Tech

                    Site Contributor
                    500+ Posts
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 917

                    #10
                    Re: C451 drum cleaning blade

                    yes, agree with the C451-C652 units, where the drum and DV are all in 1, you have to balance the DV, and check it after install sometimes twice.

                    I have a old balance scale, i can attach a unit till it balances on center, so i know the dv is even (or close to even).

                    also the newer units that have separate drum units from the DV units are likly to fail due to drum failure due to the blades or nicks...

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