Bizhub C654e - Booklet Finishing Question

[lostTech]

Re: Bizhub C654e - Booklet Finishing Question

Sorry to disappoint, but SD-511 will do only Cover Sheet up to Thick 2 and SD512 same as SD- 511 have to read the small print in Service Manual and all the * by each detail ..I think the finisher is perfectly capable of doing it. So ..I'd suggest as well _ Heat up Custom size paper in Service Mode. When I have more time I'll have look in to it my self, as i potentially may want to use it with one of our clients, who is constantly asking why why why it can't do when the previous machine could .

We're having the same problem. Customer is producing full colour booklets on 160gsm paper, we sold the machine not realizing it wouldnt staple that. We tried upping the fixing temp and that temporarily sorted the problem until they started doing long print runs (at last check, about 5000 in a day), then the ink would start lifting off again.

We've tried modifying print jobs to change the job to heavy 2 post driver but the machine cancels stapling due to paper type.

We've proven that the machine can handle the stapling by using plain paper settings, so its merely a firmware setting that stopping it, probably somewhere in the dip switches.

Anyone else had any luck?

[Synaux]

Re: Bizhub C654e - Booklet Finishing Question

We're having the same problem. Customer is producing full colour booklets on 160gsm paper, we sold the machine not realizing it wouldnt staple that. We tried upping the fixing temp and that temporarily sorted the problem until they started doing long print runs (at last check, about 5000 in a day), then the ink would start lifting off again.

We've tried modifying print jobs to change the job to heavy 2 post driver but the machine cancels stapling due to paper type.

We've proven that the machine can handle the stapling by using plain paper settings, so its merely a firmware setting that stopping it, probably somewhere in the dip switches.

Anyone else had any luck?

Random idea: try enabling glossy mode--if that option is available on the 654s.

On others, this mode slows down the machine a little, which may give the extra time needed to heat the toner to the substrate.

[methogod]

Re: Bizhub C654e - Booklet Finishing Question

YOU WILL NEVER GET THIS TO WORK...

i have tried for a year and a half with a C650 and C452 both with the larger finsihers...

it just wont make a nice booklet anyway.


best bet is to print it, and take it to a bindery.... just add the cost into your production...

[saburnsjax]

Re: Bizhub C654e - Booklet Finishing Question

We've proven that the machine can handle the stapling by using plain paper settings, so its merely a firmware setting that stopping it, probably somewhere in the dip switches.

Would love to know what to tell the tech to try. I have a call in and was going to request a patch from Konica (don't know what else to try!).

The machine prints color beautifully on 28# when you tell the machine it is Thick 1, and it staples 28# beautifully if you "lie" to it and call it plain... but as you state it is physically limited by some firmware or software setting.

There should be no reason I can't print a dozen color booklets on regular 28# paper on a machine of this caliber. I'm not talking runs of 100's or 1000's here. I'm talking runs in the dozens, so outsourcing to a bindery is something we do obviously, but not for such a small quantity.

[Synaux]

Re: Bizhub C654e - Booklet Finishing Question

YOU WILL NEVER GET THIS TO WORK...

i have tried for a year and a half with a C650 and C452 both with the larger finsihers...

it just wont make a nice booklet anyway.


best bet is to print it, and take it to a bindery.... just add the cost into your production...

I have to disagree regarding printing booklets on 32lb stock and lighter.

Unless I am crazy, I think the issue is these units not fixing the toner on 28lb when set as plain paper. I have never had an issue running 28lb Hammermill as plain paper.

They will do a fine job for booklets if you have enough patience to setup the finisher correctly--same goes for trifolds--you must be willing to perform a combination of physical and soft adjustments to get them right. A tedious endeavor to be sure.

[methogod]

Re: Bizhub C654e - Booklet Finishing Question

be glad to run them for you, just let me know what your cost is...






its a bitch - konica sold you a bizhub - business is the key word.
bizhub pro - business is still in there...

bizhub press - now they at least are declaring it a digital press.... C6501 is great low cost machine to run, C7000 is even better.

[lostTech]

Re: Bizhub C654e - Booklet Finishing Question

Random idea: try enabling glossy mode--if that option is available on the 654s.

On others, this mode slows down the machine a little, which may give the extra time needed to heat the toner to the substrate.

Unfortunately you cant use Glossy mode with double sided or center staple

Also found that you can do side staple with thick paper, just not center staple (booklet). It looks like its been artificially limited