KM Bizhub C451, Set the toner cartridge (K)

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  • mkoltowski
    Technician
    • Apr 2010
    • 40

    #1

    KM Bizhub C451, Set the toner cartridge (K)

    Hi. I've problem with Bizhub C451. When I install cartridge, on display copier shows me "Set the toner cartridge(K)". Next I pull out them and install again, and it's ok. But when I power off and power on copier, again shows "Set the toner cartridge (K)". Help. ;-)
  • Rolandito
    Technician
    • Aug 2007
    • 85

    #2
    Re: KM Bizhub C451, Set the toner cartridge (K)

    are you using OEM Konica Toner TN411K???

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    • mo0651
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Apr 2009
      • 1054

      #3
      Re: KM Bizhub C451, Set the toner cartridge (K)

      Has been a while and can't remember the bulletin. But if you clean the claw mechanism at the back of the toner rails. It will allow the mechanism to work better. It has some toner build up in it.

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      • mkoltowski
        Technician
        • Apr 2010
        • 40

        #4
        Re: KM Bizhub C451, Set the toner cartridge (K)

        I'm using OEM toner. This toner in other machine work. I change motor and claw in copier.

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        • pepper38_cnd
          Field Service Manager

          Site Contributor
          1,000+ Posts
          • Aug 2005
          • 1075

          #5
          Re: KM Bizhub C451, Set the toner cartridge (K)

          You probably need to change the toner drive assembly. If you look in with a flashlight and see the white drive assembly is not centered it is broken. When you remove the drive assembly the white piece will fall out it's not supposed to. Note each drive assembly drives 2 colors so the broken one could be the color next to the one that is giving you issues.
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          • mkoltowski
            Technician
            • Apr 2010
            • 40

            #6
            Re: KM Bizhub C451, Set the toner cartridge (K)

            I changed the toner drive assembly and is the same. Also I replaced toner chips reader.

            I noticed that when I power on copier and I get this message, after opening and closing the door of the toners (without removing the toner cartridge) message disappears.

            Even if this message appears ("Set the toner cartridge K"), I can copy and print.

            Does anyone have an idea how to solve it?

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            • pepper38_cnd
              Field Service Manager

              Site Contributor
              1,000+ Posts
              • Aug 2005
              • 1075

              #7
              Re: KM Bizhub C451, Set the toner cartridge (K)

              Check all chip contacts both toner and iu's make sure noe are bent and are not touching the metal plate.
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              • danikelado
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 2

                #8
                Re: KM Bizhub C451, Set the toner cartridge (K)

                Hi, first forgive my English, I do not speak English, I will use a translator from Spanish to English for my comment.I've had this problem on a Bizhub C550 and after trying everything they say, at the end I realized I did not turn the auger well inside the boat toner.The toner is acomulaba at one end and kept turning the endless interior. as known and sometimes not done is move the toner as indicated before placing in the machine.

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                • Synaux
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                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 1224

                  #9
                  Re: KM Bizhub C451, Set the toner cartridge (K)

                  Originally posted by mkoltowski
                  I changed the toner drive assembly and is the same. Also I replaced toner chips reader.

                  I noticed that when I power on copier and I get this message, after opening and closing the door of the toners (without removing the toner cartridge) message disappears.

                  Even if this message appears ("Set the toner cartridge K"), I can copy and print.

                  Does anyone have an idea how to solve it?
                  Easy way to make sure the chip is being read: take a chip off any other color toner that you are not currently using and install it on the black toner, if you do not immediately get a code, then the chip is not being read or there is some sort of data issue/board issue (perhaps firmware)!

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                  • toner cartridge
                    Technician
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 33

                    #10
                    Re: KM Bizhub C451, Set the toner cartridge (K)

                    Originally posted by danikelado
                    Hi, first forgive my English, I do not speak English, I will use a translator from Spanish to English for my comment.I've had this problem on a Bizhub C550 and after trying everything they say, at the end I realized I did not turn the auger well inside the boat toner.The toner is acomulaba at one end and kept turning the endless interior. as known and sometimes not done is move the toner as indicated before placing in the machine.


                    i think your suggestion is right. . i also have a customer meet this problem "KM Bizhub C451, Set the toner cartridge (K)".
                    he thought is toner chip problem, but our technician checked, anyways, not toner chip problem, i will suggest our customer
                    to do like you, try to solve problem. thanks for your share.







                    toner chip manufacture

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                    • toner cartridge
                      Technician
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 33

                      #11
                      Re: KM Bizhub C451, Set the toner cartridge (K)

                      Originally posted by danikelado
                      Hi, first forgive my English, I do not speak English, I will use a translator from Spanish to English for my comment.I've had this problem on a Bizhub C550 and after trying everything they say, at the end I realized I did not turn the auger well inside the boat toner.The toner is acomulaba at one end and kept turning the endless interior. as known and sometimes not done is move the toner as indicated before placing in the machine.



                      i think your suggestion is good. I have a customer also meet this problem, and he thought is chips problem, and our chip technician checked
                      the chip is OK.. i will recommend your idea to him, to try to solve the problem. thanks in advance.





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