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  • patk
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Jun 2008
    • 56

    #1

    Keycounter socket location PRO951

    Have not been able to find location of the keycounter socket on bizhub PRO 951. Anyone know, doesnt appear to be in any manual Ive seen so far

    Cheers
    Pat
  • allan
    RTFM!!

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    • Apr 2010
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    #2
    Re: Keycounter socket location PRO951

    Here comes the best clue i can give. CN35 on the PRCB and CNT2(Fknows?).
    The only instance i could get in the manual is on a diagram.
    That does show the pin layout.

    Search for the words key counter in the manual and there would be a couple of clues.
    I would not be surprised if the socket on CN35 is empty.


    I don't think they what you to use it. Its there, but no supporting documentation!
    Whatever

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    • tech51
      Senior Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Jan 2009
      • 846

      #3
      Re: Keycounter socket location PRO951

      There's a small panel on the rear of the main body which you have to unscrew. The socket is behind that.
      If you look at the machine from the back its just below the left hand doc feeder hinge.

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      • patk
        Technician

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        • Jun 2008
        • 56

        #4
        Re: Keycounter socket location PRO951

        Originally posted by tech51
        There's a small panel on the rear of the main body which you have to unscrew. The socket is behind that.
        If you look at the machine from the back its just below the left hand doc feeder hinge.
        Thanks but we do not have small panel in that position or anywhere on back of machine body

        Cheers

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        • patk
          Technician

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          • Jun 2008
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          #5
          Re: Keycounter socket location PRO951

          Originally posted by allan
          Here comes the best clue i can give. CN35 on the PRCB and CNT2(Fknows?).
          The only instance i could get in the manual is on a diagram.
          That does show the pin layout.

          Search for the words key counter in the manual and there would be a couple of clues.
          I would not be surprised if the socket on CN35 is empty.


          I don't think they what you to use it. Its there, but no supporting documentation!
          CN35 is connected - 4 yellow wires which unfortunately join the loom with a million other yellows

          Cheers
          Pat
          Last edited by patk; 07-14-2015, 04:17 PM. Reason: incorrect info

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          • allan
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            Re: Keycounter socket location PRO951

            Well its CN35 connector the key counter only use 4 wires.

            Dont take my work for it but i think shorting pin 2 and 3 would lock the machine in key counter mode. Its SGND and Set_KC. I would do that with a low rated like 250mA 5V fuse.
            Whatever

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            • patk
              Technician

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              • Jun 2008
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              #7
              Re: Keycounter socket location PRO951

              Originally posted by allan
              Well its CN35 connector the key counter only use 4 wires.

              Dont take my work for it but i think shorting pin 2 and 3 would lock the machine in key counter mode. Its SGND and Set_KC. I would do that with a low rated like 250mA 5V fuse.
              My error - CN35 has 4 yellows (edited above). I've found the key counter connector now, its in the space above HV unit 1, identified by pins 1 and 2 being loop connected as per the wiring diagram.

              Thanks for help

              Cheers
              Pat

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              • allan
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                #8
                Re: Keycounter socket location PRO951

                Originally posted by patk
                My error - CN35 has 4 yellows (edited above). I've found the key counter connector now, its in the space above HV unit 1, identified by pins 1 and 2 being loop connected as per the wiring diagram.

                Thanks for help

                Cheers
                Pat
                I am never sure if it should switch to positive or to ground. All sensors and solenoids switch to ground.

                That means Pin 2 (Key Counter set) and Pin 1 (24V supply) must be open (not connected) to disable the machine? That means its switch to positive.

                Are you connecting a coin vendor?
                The way of doing things with this machine is with IC cards that can be loaded with credits.
                Not a machine i would expose to the public.
                Whatever

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                • patk
                  Technician

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                  • Jun 2008
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                  #9
                  Re: Keycounter socket location PRO951

                  Originally posted by allan
                  I am never sure if it should switch to positive or to ground. All sensors and solenoids switch to ground.

                  That means Pin 2 (Key Counter set) and Pin 1 (24V supply) must be open (not connected) to disable the machine? That means its switch to positive.

                  Are you connecting a coin vendor?
                  The way of doing things with this machine is with IC cards that can be loaded with credits.
                  Not a machine i would expose to the public.
                  Although 24v supply is on pin 1 on CN35, its on pin 4 on the key counter socket CN61A, The two pins connected are Key Counter Set and SGND.

                  No, not connecting coin vendor, I'm connecting a CPAD unit for PaperCut MF.

                  Cheers
                  Pat

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                  • MAUro
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2018
                    • 1

                    #10
                    Re: Keycounter socket location PRO951

                    Originally posted by patk
                    Although 24v supply is on pin 1 on CN35, its on pin 4 on the key counter socket CN61A, The two pins connected are Key Counter Set and SGND.

                    No, not connecting coin vendor, I'm connecting a CPAD unit for PaperCut MF.

                    Cheers
                    Pat
                    Hi, i had the same problem, the conector 1&2 must be connected. Cheers

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