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  • Hansoon
    Field Supervisor

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    • Sep 2007
    • 3347

    #1

    BH-C-280, Toner empty indicator

    Got from a wholesaler a nice BH-C-280 having all toner indicators in the lower range. When we put the machine in the field as a rental machine usually we use new toner cartridges. However, the BH-C-280 generally is a little different in indicating the amount available in the cartridges and not showing the actual real content of a cartridge.

    Is there any way to force the machine to calculate the toner quantity of a new cartridge other than vacuuming the sub hopper out of toner and having an empty cartridge in place to force the "Toner Empty" procedure to start with?

    Hans
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  • tech51
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Jan 2009
    • 846

    #2
    Re: BH-C-280, Toner empty indicator

    Originally posted by Hansoon
    Got from a wholesaler a nice BH-C-280 having all toner indicators in the lower range. When we put the machine in the field as a rental machine usually we use new toner cartridges. However, the BH-C-280 generally is a little different in indicating the amount available in the cartridges and not showing the actual real content of a cartridge.

    Is there any way to force the machine to calculate the toner quantity of a new cartridge other than vacuuming the sub hopper out of toner and having an empty cartridge in place to force the "Toner Empty" procedure to start with?

    Hans
    Short answer is no.
    However since it only calls for a replacement toner when the sub hopper begins to empty, it will still use all of the toner in the cartridges.
    It just shows low on the display

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    • EarthKmTech
      Step aside, noob

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      • May 2009
      • 2139

      #3
      Re: BH-C-280, Toner empty indicator

      we send second hand machines out with a set of toners for the customer to change as required.

      customers are also advised to never change toners on any machine until the machine asks for it too.

      this has caused us no troubles in the 4 years i've been at this particular company.

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      • Blaze1978
        Sr. In-House Specialist
        • Jul 2015
        • 6

        #4
        Re: BH-C-280, Toner empty indicator

        Originally posted by EarthKmTech

        customers are also advised to never change toners on any machine until the machine asks for it too.
        This.

        Never ever replace the toner in that series, unless the machine is telling you "Replace cartridge" and will not make a copy until you do. The machine does not display the new toner bottle otherwise.

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        • allan
          RTFM!!

          5,000+ Posts
          • Apr 2010
          • 5459

          #5
          Re: BH-C-280, Toner empty indicator

          initializing the machine data worked on the last one i put out.
          But it would show that the bottles are full.

          Just leave it like it is and give them a spare set.
          Whatever

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          • Hansoon
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            • Sep 2007
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            #6
            Re: BH-C-280, Toner empty indicator

            Thanks for the input guys.

            initializing the machine data worked on the last one i put out.
            But it would show that the bottles are full.
            Thanks Allan that worked indeed in my case too. All are showing 100% now.

            Great!

            Hans
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            • EarthKmTech
              Step aside, noob

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              • May 2009
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              #7
              Re: BH-C-280, Toner empty indicator

              your customers must be a bit more precious in that part of the world - have never needed to worry about this in the past

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              • Hansoon
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                • Sep 2007
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                #8
                Re: BH-C-280, Toner empty indicator

                GERMANS!

                Glad I'm Dutch, though having German roots....... lol

                Hans
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                • CompyTech
                  Super Tech

                  500+ Posts
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 706

                  #9
                  Re: BH-C-280, Toner empty indicator

                  Sometimes running stabilizer or manual add toner will correct it self. I try to educate customers when I can on these series machines on how the toner process works. That prevents problems. Other than that, things get really fun when the customer loads the wrong color into on of the slots and wonders why their copies are coming out "blue" for example.

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                  • rrrohan
                    Service Manager

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                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1977

                    #10
                    Re: BH-C-280, Toner empty indicator

                    also i would turn off consumable life reminder

                    the amount of customers who dont read the message and replaced a basically full toner because it was asking for the corresponding Dev or Drum.

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                    • EarthKmTech
                      Step aside, noob

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • May 2009
                      • 2139

                      #11
                      Re: BH-C-280, Toner empty indicator

                      It didn't help with the fact that practically the entire life of the series up till one of the last made firmware updates the cyan developing unit was called an imaging unit on the warning message. Many drums ended up going in the bin unnecessarily for that too.

                      It was me personally who was annoyed enough seeing that message and being asked WTF it was all about from customers that finally had the typo fixed.

                      Funnily enough, it surfaced yet again in the 4 series but has since been fixed.

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                      • Hansoon
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                        • Sep 2007
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                        #12
                        Re: BH-C-280, Toner empty indicator

                        Must be the translator. We have had similar issues and straight out dumb, stupid faulty German translations in the past.

                        This is not the expected high class, high tech equipment but just consumer electronics. Obviously.



                        Hans
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                        • Copier Addict
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                          • Jul 2013
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                          #13
                          Re: BH-C-280, Toner empty indicator

                          Originally posted by Hansoon
                          Must be the translator. We have had similar issues and straight out dumb, stupid faulty German translations in the past.

                          This is not the expected high class, high tech equipment but just consumer electronics. Obviously.



                          Hans
                          You will like the C280 series more than the C353 series. They are like night and day.

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